Tideace NEW Gravel Frame: GR201

Started by FabioZang, February 01, 2024, 01:34:49 AM

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canadabike93

What bar and stem are you running ?

Uberflo

Quote from: tgarne on December 24, 2024, 06:40:57 AM
Realized I forgot to post my build for the winter months here in denmark.
I bought the TanTan version and the quality seems very good.

Build it up from parts from a crashed bike and what good offers I could find.

And yes you can fit a 48t chainring with sram DUB Wide. At least on a size 58.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9EwZJ5n7STsFzVYeA

Nice build but I doubt the 48t will last under muddy conditions w/o rubbing the chainstay. I think 46t is maximum under all conditions.

tgarne

Quote from: Uberflo on December 24, 2024, 02:02:45 PM
Nice build but I doubt the 48t will last under muddy conditions w/o rubbing the chainstay. I think 46t is maximum under all conditions.

Yeah I agree. I also bought an Xcadey power meter and a 46t chainring to mount.

I just wanna tear down the aero power meter before throwing it out and i just ride tarmac here in the winter months. Gets so muddy and dirty at this time

Shmee

Quote from: canadabike93 on December 24, 2024, 11:11:27 AM
What bar and stem are you running ?

Deda superbox stem then a some BALUGOE 37cm bars from aliexpress

Hans66

Quote from: Shmee on December 24, 2024, 09:33:30 AM
Finally finished my Tantan build
Nice bike, looks like mine  ;)

patliean1

Finally...we are live on the channel. After a month in transit. I am freakin' PUMPED.

Size 54 came in at 1338g with both hangers and all 14 mounting bolts. 3g each
110mm cockpit. I'm 6 feet tall / 183cm and ride a 56 Tarmac SL8 with a 140mm cockpit. Yikes.

YouTube Title Search: TanTan GR201 Gravel - Big Brands Should Be VERY Afraid

SunnyShore

Did anyone try this frame with Schwalbe Thunder Burts (or any other 2.1 tire)?

I'm starting to pick all the parts while I'm waiting for the frame to ship but I'm still undecided on the tires. I need two pairs:

  • Fast tires in the 35-40mm range for road: guess it'll be either the Hutchinson Caracal Race 40mm or the Schwalbe Pro One in 38mm
  • 50mm+ gravel tire: either the Thunder Burt if it fits, or one between the Continental Terra hard pack or the new Schwalbe G One tire

Requiem84

Quote from: Shmee on December 24, 2024, 09:33:30 AM
Finally finished my Tantan build

I really like your build. What seatpost is that?

AFE

Quote from: patliean1 on December 24, 2024, 04:46:22 PM
Finally...we are live on the channel. After a month in transit. I am freakin' PUMPED.

Size 54 came in at 1338g with both hangers and all 14 mounting bolts. 3g each
110mm cockpit. I'm 6 feet tall / 183cm and ride a 56 Tarmac SL8 with a 140mm cockpit. Yikes.

YouTube Title Search: TanTan GR201 Gravel - Big Brands Should Be VERY Afraid


Love that champagne gold color.


I am 189cm with 90,5cm inseam and decided to go with the 58. Since I see a couple of you guys with only a few centimeters less going with 54 I am starting to question my decision.

RDY

Quote from: AFE on December 26, 2024, 04:19:59 AM
Love that champagne gold color.


I am 189cm with 90,5cm inseam and decided to go with the 58. Since I see a couple of you guys with only a few centimeters less going with 54 I am starting to question my decision.

Your inseam is way longer than the guys who are 'sizing down'.  Unless you're extremely flexible, 58 is likely right for you.

Shmee

Quote from: Requiem84 on December 26, 2024, 01:22:55 AM
I really like your build. What seatpost is that?

Just the standard seatpost that came with the frame

patliean1

Pardon the mess. I'm currently still building my GR201, while simultaneously stripping down old bike to be sold off. The build is almost finished. Just have bleed the brakes and mount my gravel wheels/tires.

For anyone thinking about getting this frame, please be extremely cautious with your sizing consideration. I mounted road wheels to the frame to offer a visual comparison against my road bikes.

Left: GR201 (172.5 cranks, size 54, 110mm stem)
Middle: Polygon Helios (172.5 cranks, size 56, front end set up more for endurance, 140mm stem)
Right: Tarmac SL8 (170 cranks, size 56, 140mm stem, raised saddle and handlebars to compensate shorter cranks.)

As you can see even with 15mm of spacers the GR201 is only barely even at the front end. The shallower drops will compensate. Also too the bottom bracket drop on this frame is much deeper/than a standard road bike by at least 10mm. Is in reality the saddle to bar drop isn't as extreme.

raisinberry777

#327
The geometry follows the current crop of longer reach / shorter stems geometry gravel bikes. The main difference with the Tideace compared to others is that is has a very low stack.

Comparing the numbers in the 52 to the current Canyon Grail in size S (essentially the intended size for a ~175cm rider), the numbers are very similar except for a 40mm(!) smaller stack on the Tideace, coming from the short head tube. The Canyon is designed around the use of a 70mm stem (around 100mm is normal for that size) and I suspect that the Tideace is similar in that respect.

I expect the best starting point would be - exactly as you've gone for Pat - 30mm shorter than what you typically use on the road. That's worked for me too.

patliean1

Quick Question:

I was playing around with setting up a 2x drivetrain using a SRAM Force road front derailleur. 48/35 chainring.
However, the derailleur hanger on the GR201 frame is too far inboard to attach the derailleur mounting bolt.

Is this by design? I know technically 46t is the max, but a smaller chainring still wouldn't solve this. Would I need some sort of derailleur hanger outboard extender?

Sram's DUB spindle and T47i road setup requires a 3mm spacer on the drive side per their user guide. I wonder if that's where the issue lies. Of course if I removed the spacer the 48t outer chainring would probably scrape the chain stay LoL

fhill

Quote from: patliean1 on December 27, 2024, 09:23:59 AM
Quick Question:

I was playing around with setting up a 2x drivetrain using a SRAM Force road front derailleur. 48/35 chainring.
However, the derailleur hanger on the GR201 frame is too far inboard to attach the derailleur mounting bolt.

Is this by design? I know technically 46t is the max, but a smaller chainring still wouldn't solve this. Would I need some sort of derailleur hanger outboard extender?

Sram's DUB spindle and T47i road setup requires a 3mm spacer on the drive side per their user guide. I wonder if that's where the issue lies. Of course if I removed the spacer the 48t outer chainring would probably scrape the chain stay LoL

That's interesting as Eddy said, it wouldn't be an issue with Ultegra 50/34 Chainrings.. Sad to hear it won't work with Chainrings >46