Spcycle New Mold G068 Carbon Gravel Frame

Started by spcycle, April 15, 2024, 04:40:36 AM

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fhill

Okay having all cables routed thru the frame and the headset cap from SPCycle i've gotta say, the original cap is a pain in the ass, the silicon rubber thru which all the cables go thru doesn't stay in place when bringing cables thru, so the cable rub on the metal cap a lot. Looks pretty nasty on the cables.

Another issue is the awful look with the original cap as you have to run around 15mm spacers under the stem.

the compression ring in a form of a C doesn't help with the easy routing.

I now decided to order a headset from Ritchey to hide the cables under the stem better, but mostly because their routing thru the cap looks easier to handle. I hope the headset cap arrives soon and also I hope it fits.

fhold

as I planned on using the same headset cap would be interested to see how bad it looks? Any pictures? And what headset from Ritchey did you order?

fhill

Quote from: fhold on January 29, 2025, 08:26:27 AM
as I planned on using the same headset cap would be interested to see how bad it looks? Any pictures? And what headset from Ritchey did you order?

I ordered the headset for the Ritchey Switch stem and plan on using it with another stem.

It isn't really awful but I don't like it

zett

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That is a -17° stem though, isn't it? Looks like you won't need as many spacers with a standard -6° stem. I have a Scott Speedster with a somewhat similar cable routing method, and while it may look bad for the cables, I really didn't have any problems with that over the course of 15000 kms and two years.

Edit: OK, looking closer at this, the Speedster setup is pretty much like the Ritchey Switch system, and yes, it has provisions for larger bending angle compared to the cap with holes... so it's really not the same.

fhill

Quote from: zett on January 29, 2025, 12:01:11 PM
That is a -17° stem though, isn't it? Looks like you won't need as many spacers with a standard -6° stem. I have a Scott Speedster with a somewhat similar cable routing method, and while it may look bad for the cables, I really didn't have any problems with that over the course of 15000 kms and two years.

Edit: OK, looking closer at this, the Speedster setup is pretty much like the Ritchey Switch system, and yes, it has provisions for larger bending angle compared to the cap with holes... so it's really not the same.

Exactly it's a -17 stem, this one is just for the build, still waiting for the one I'm planning to ride with, but I can't run without spacers as without spacers the cables get in the way of the stem. With the ritchey headset I'll have around 23mm of stack added and I think it'll work quite well with it, should get the headset tomorrow.
Before I'll saw the fork shaft a bit and get the brake mounts faced

zett

Kocevlo seems to have a suitable integrated stem too:

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005007902192667.html

I wonder if that one is any good.

fhill

Quote from: zett on January 29, 2025, 12:25:22 PM
Kocevlo seems to have a suitable integrated stem too:

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005007902192667.html

I wonder if that one is any good.

This one seems to have the same centering ring as the original headset from SPCycle. With all 4 cables this near to each other it's not optimal, the centerring from Ritchey gives you a bit more place to route the cables. But I think the Kocvelo headset/stem will work better than the solution from SPCycle as you dont have the get the cables thru ridiculous small holes in the top cap

zett

Fortunately I won't have that problem (no FD). I still don't like the design of the compression ring nonetheless. I don't like how these C-shaped rings do not support the front of the steerer.

Rolle2k

I have tried the Ritchey comp switch headset and stem, and it works - but you'll have to live with a ~2mm spacing between the frame and headset cover, if you don't fix your own gasket there inbetween.
Tried different bearings to get it closer, but still at least 1.6mm with the best bearing so far... so i dont know what to do about that one. Doesn't look nice, and i just see lots of dirt going in there.
The Ritchey headset got a small rubber gasket below the cover - i emailed ritchey asking if they were thinking about making that rubber gasket i different heights - which would fix the problem.

For now i ordered the Bontrager / Trek headset cover which was shown above in picture. Will try that one and wait for ritcheys answer before i decide what to do.

zett

I'm almost at a point that an integrated clockpit might be easier and cheaper option, haha. I don't really like bars with lots of flare though. Most gravel integrated cockpits appear to have 15° flare, or more. Any recommendations for something in the 10° flare range and with a short reach?

fhill

Quote from: Rolle2k on January 30, 2025, 04:00:08 AM
I have tried the Ritchey comp switch headset and stem, and it works - but you'll have to live with a ~2mm spacing between the frame and headset cover, if you don't fix your own gasket there inbetween.
Tried different bearings to get it closer, but still at least 1.6mm with the best bearing so far... so i dont know what to do about that one. Doesn't look nice, and i just see lots of dirt going in there.
The Ritchey headset got a small rubber gasket below the cover - i emailed ritchey asking if they were thinking about making that rubber gasket i different heights - which would fix the problem.

For now i ordered the Bontrager / Trek headset cover which was shown above in picture. Will try that one and wait for ritcheys answer before i decide what to do.

Can you send a picture of the headset with the Ritchey

Rolle2k

Quote from: fhill on January 30, 2025, 05:46:57 AM
Can you send a picture of the headset with the Ritchey

This picture is just put on, with original bearing. Spacing should be a little smaller with pre-loaded fork/headset bearings. and even smaller with other bearing.
Got answer from ritchey, and they don't have any other gasket, and wont make other gasket either.

zett

Hey, I have another question for G068 owners: what's the height of the chainstay on the NDS? I want to make sure that I have the correct caliper bolt length.

fhill

Quote from: zett on January 30, 2025, 07:15:07 AM
Hey, I have another question for G068 owners: what's the height of the chainstay on the NDS? I want to make sure that I have the correct caliper bolt length.

I took the 38mm bolts works fine

frnchy

Quote from: zett on January 30, 2025, 07:15:07 AM
Hey, I have another question for G068 owners: what's the height of the chainstay on the NDS? I want to make sure that I have the correct caliper bolt length.

Brake mounts are 25 mm thick, so use whatever bolts correspond to that. I'm using 35 mm Ti bolts into Shimano calipers for a 160 mm rotor. Remember that the rear brake mount is for 160 mm rotors natively so that might change bolt lengths a bit.