Velobuild Quality Control

[RDY]

I wish there was a dislike button. Who are you, and how much 1st hand experience with VB and other frames do you have?
Saying there is "no quality control whatsoever from velobuild" is simply false. I don't even want to argue, I just wish posts could be downvoted.

I don't think there is any.  I've seen numerous frames first hand from them over the past 3 years, including one I bought.  Half were absolute trash ... and looked like someone had been messing around with power tools when drunk.  Some were actually quite good.  But it's a lottery as to what you'll get.  Maybe the suppliers they use are now less stretched than they were, after the covid goldrush ended, but there's still no evidence that recent VB stuff has any QC whatsoever, as total trash is still getting shipped - stuff you can spot from metres away with just a glance.

Pre-covid, I think they were much better.  Now, I'd never recommend them to anyone.

[hazzer19]

I wouldn't call the 177 improved at all. It's basically a non-aero version of the 168. Might be lighter but it's not an improvement in my eyes. The 268 is an evolution for sure but that weird quick release thru axle thing is a big step backwards to me. But everybody can have their own opinion. I'd still pick the 168 given the choice of all three.

I've ridden the 168, 177 and 268 now. I would agree with the earlier assessment that the 177 has considerable upgrades over the 168 in terms of stiffness and weight. The 268 is a great combination of the latter two and my favorite frame so far. The new speed release style axles took a little getting used to, but have been totally fine and often more convenient.

[Greenred]

I bought the 168 2 years ago and it’s impeccable. I bought the GF002 and it too is impeccable.
I abuse my 168 on the indoor trainer and outdoors. I abused the Gf002 on a an bikepacking trip…

I believe that their quality assurance improved over time, sometimes there may be sloppiness and customer service in these cases seems mind boggling from a western perspective, I agree.