New Frame Winow Sports WR054

[rockerplates.de]

Terry started ghosting me, so no more winow for me. bought 2 frames from him, at the same time as 2 long teng frames. the LT ones were better finished, especially the BB area. My crank spins forever in my LT, and i could feel installing the BBs (all 4 frames with the same format) that both LT had better alignment and tolerances than both winow.
Anecdotal, but the ghosting part is outright unacceptable.

do i remember corretly, you are also ghosted by ican?

[Serge_K]

do i remember corretly, you are also ghosted by ican?

I am? Not that i remember. I asked Crystal about the new TT frame months ago, exchanged a few emails, then decided not to order right away, but i dont remember being ghosted?
It's also not easy to get Justin from Speeder to reply in a timely manner, but i wouldn't call that ghosting either (same idea, i asked a few questions, exchanged a few emails, then decided not to order right away).

[mtm]

Any update on the frame? They also offer a another new model with UDH and T47, available in XL: https://www.winowsports.com/product/WR018-Light-Weight-Aero-Disc-UDH-T47-BB.html
I had contact with Terry. Price ist 408 USD w/o handlebar. I am thinking about ordering one.

Seems to be the same as the TanTan TT-R18: http://tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=1166

[xhl5]

So i finally got around to building this thing up. No major hiccups and everything is nice and solid. Frame feels fast and stiff and personally (i understand it might be boring to some) i love how this bike looks. Very pleased so far. Total weight with pedals comes in at around 8.3kg.
Just one thing: I asked winow for torque spec recommendations on both whatsapp and via e-mail. They only response i got was "hi". Then they ghosted me. Not a good look.

[veritasdocet]

Be careful with the geometry of this frame.

The seat angle is not 73.5º as stated in the Winow size chart – it’s much steeper, more like a time trial bike, over 80º. So the higher you set your seatpost, the shorter the effective top tube becomes.

Normally, I ride a size 58 with a 110 mm stem. I chose this Winow in size L (56) and paired it with a 120 mm handlebar, thinking that if I moved the saddle 1 cm backwards, it would be fine. But this is impossible on this frame. The saddle is positioned as shown in the photo, and I’m still 2 cm short.

Even though the Winow is supposed to be available in a XL frame size, it doesn’t really solve the problem — it only adds about 1 cm to the rear of the bike, which doesn’t help with my issue.

Are you still positive about this after more riding? Would you say the angle is really that steep?

[Vaclav]

Are you still positive about this after more riding? Would you say the angle is really that steep?

I had to get used to the modern, more forward riding position, and after about two months it felt fine. I adjusted all my bikes that way. However, this size L frame is simply too short for my height (186cm/90cm), even with a 120 mm stem, and there is also significant toe overlap.
As for the ride behaviour, it is very stiff and responsive, but definitely not a comfortable bike (I ride it with 65 mm high carbon wheels with carbon spokes).
I plan to buy the Mondince aero frame FM126 in size 58 once it becomes available.

[veritasdocet]

I had to get used to the modern, more forward riding position, and after about two months it felt fine. I adjusted all my bikes that way. However, this size L frame is simply too short for my height (186cm/90cm), even with a 120 mm stem, and there is also significant toe overlap.
As for the ride behaviour, it is very stiff and responsive, but definitely not a comfortable bike (I ride it with 65 mm high carbon wheels with carbon spokes).
I plan to buy the Mondince aero frame FM126 in size 58 once it becomes available.

Thank you for the insight, I asked because it would actually be useful for me if the bike has a steeper seat angle, as I'm trying to build a bike to use for normal riding but also occasional triathlon races races with aero bars. So the seat angle being steeper than advertised could possibly allow me to have a better aero positioning.