Spcycle 2024 New M868 Downcountry Full Suspension Frame

[basy]

Hi guys,
i also pulled the trigger and ordered one in matte black size L.

My question now: Is the fork cone included, or do i get it when i order a new fork or do i have to buy it separetely?
And when i have to buy it extra, where is a good place to buy it?

Thanks

[Ludo]

Are you talking about the piece that goes between the fork and the bearing, the crown race?

[basy]

yes 🙂

[Ludo]

That should come with your headset

[jspaf]

Hi guys, I also pulled the trigger on one of these, size medium, just after the new year. I will post the build and some progress. I’m pumped!

[nallen]

I just received my white  XL M868 from SP Cycle this morning after an annoying hold up with customs (UPS was the problem is seems.). Delivery was prompt from SP, you can't hold anyone accountable for customs into the USA who isn't in the government. 

Everything appears in order, after removing the plastic spacer for the rear shock I weighed it at 1785 g.  Paint looks smooth and well done.  The frame was packaged well without any damage. The interior appears smooth and without any carbon lay up mess.  The BSA BB looks clean, I will find out straightness when I put the crankset on.  The headset is snug and seated well, the edges don't feel sharp enough to cut through the cable housing as was seen on Orbea bikes with similar cable routing. 

The included headset has a UDH to standard derailer adaptor, and the proper bits for a normal fork (a previous post asked this.) The seat clamp I will probably replace with a more robust one, but it's probably fine. 

I will share pictures when it is built up later today.

Attached are some pictures showing details I haven't seen on other posts for those considering.

[Panczo]

I just received my white  XL M868 from SP Cycle this morning after an annoying hold up with customs (UPS was the problem is seems.). Delivery was prompt from SP, you can't hold anyone accountable for customs into the USA who isn't in the government. 

Everything appears in order, after removing the plastic spacer for the rear shock I weighed it at 1785 g.  Paint looks smooth and well done.  The frame was packaged well without any damage. The interior appears smooth and without any carbon lay up mess.  The BSA BB looks clean, I will find out straightness when I put the crankset on.  The headset is snug and seated well, the edges don't feel sharpenough to cut through the cable housing as was seen on Orbea bikes with similar cable routing. 

The included headset has a UDH to standard derailer adaptor, and the proper bits for a normal fork (a previous post asked this.). the seat clamp I will probably replace with a more robust one, but it's probably just fine. 

I will share pictures when it is built up later today.

Attached are some pictures showing details I haven't seen on other posts for those considering.

What suspension are you planning on installing on your project? I also purchased this frame in the same color, size M.

[nallen]

I am using Rock Shox Suspension on it, a SID Select+ fork, and a SID Luxe Ultimate rear shock.  They are older models, but significantly cheaper and only slightly different from current models.  Syncros Fraser integrated handlebar (if I'm internally routing cables I may as well go for all the things.)

Attached is a picture of the nearly final build, I have a new wheelset comng, I went with BTLOS for that.  Still figuring out the power meter options, I have an Xcady spider on a different bike I could move over.  I can drop about 800 g with a light wheelset, so the bike will land at less than 11 kg when done, lower if I ditch the dropper post.

I'll add a picture of the break down of parts and weights, formating a table is too painful.

Total   weight currently   11618.7 (25.6 Lbs)

[niklass]

Everything appears in order, after removing the plastic spacer for the rear shock I weighed it at 1785 g.
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Interesting to see that the same frame differs alomost 200g in weight My XL weighed 1950g or something close to that.

It recently got a small upgrade. New fork, a Fox Factory 34 in 120mm travel instead of the super weird setup with the SID Ultimate SL in 100mm i used at first Feels a bit more balanced now, haha.

[easyriderZO6]

looking good these last few white builds!i am considering this frame with the epic evo clone. As this one looks more reliable.

Any long term reviews?  I wonder how this frame will do in the tech stuff trail , not just XC

[easyriderZO6]

sizing help with this frame:

I am 175 riding a M frame all my life, i am considering the L size an short stem for more controll on the DH, Plus i am missing a bit length when out of the saddle on my current trek fuel ex frame

[nallen]

Interesting to see that the same frame differs alomost 200g in weight My XL weighed 1950g or something close to that.

It recently got a small upgrade. New fork, a Fox Factory 34 in 120mm travel instead of the super weird setup with the SID Ultimate SL in 100mm i used at first Feels a bit more balanced now, haha.

I removed everything I could to get a "just frame" weight, that might account for the difference.

Which handlebar is that?  The spcycle one or something different?

For a power meter I switched to the pedal-based favero assioma Duo, modified with shimano XT SPDs.

For tires I am giving the Continental Dubnitals 2.4 a try, I ran race kings for a few years, and they are basically the same thing.

Also giving the ZTTO MS ultralite 10-51 cassette a try, it's been out a while and the chinese game of beta testing on customers may have worked out the problems (I hope!). It's about as light as the XTR and less than half the price.  Shifting seems ok.

I also ordered the shimano M8250 XT Di2 upgrade, it was on spring sale from Aliexpress, and it will remove some cables from the internal routing.  The internal routing is managable, but it is annoying at times.  The headset design isn't great, but workable.  I ordered a different headset design off Amazon ($38) which might address the issue.  The problem is really the C-compression ring and how it restricts the cable placement.  Ideally you would face the gap forward, but if you have a negative angle steam or integrated bar, the bend on the cables/brake lines is enough that things don't work anymore.  The new headest has teh slots on the sides of the headset so that can be routed without this issue.

Updated picture attached for all your peeping desires.

[nallen]

looking good these last few white builds!i am considering this frame with the epic evo clone. As this one looks more reliable.

Any long term reviews?  I wonder how this frame will do in the tech stuff trail , not just XC

It's still winter here so I haven't had any hard rides yet, in fact I'm just sorting out the fit still. (Going to a 90mm steam instead of a 70 mm stem really made a bigger difference than I expected.). I have two other spcycle frame that I have ridden extensively, a hardtail MTB, and a road bike.  No quality problems with either of them, which is why I went with them for this new build.  For reference, I'm 6'3" (190 cm) tall and weigh in at 220 lbs (100 kg), I could lose a few pounds for sure but not hardly fat, so I put a lot of torque on the pedals, typical rides will see 800-1100 watt accelerations.  If the frames were going to break under load they would have under me.  (To be fair, I don't jump much, I'm an XC rider, not an enduro guy.)

For the fit issue you're looking at, look at the reach, it can be adjusted a bit by changing the stem, but it's not that simple.  The larger frame also pushes the front wheel out further, which puts you further behaind the contact patch of the tire.  The location of your mass relative to the front tire contact pad is one of the biggest factors in the handling of the bike, which is something we tall riders have to deal with constantly.  If I get a smaller frame and put a longer stem on it, my weight in front is on top of the contact pad, making it more difficult to lift the front, and making handling twitchier.   In many cases this is fine, but you lose stablity on downhill sections and it makes handling at speed more challenging.  It's something to think about when picking a frame, it's not just comfort and ergonomics at play, there are real handling changes going on.

[nallen]

Some images in Sunlight for those of you who want to know the gloss facter on the white paint.

[easyriderZO6]

just pulled the trigger on a white frame   
can anyone send me the headset bearing spec/numbers? I want to swap them with some SKF premium bearings.

Ty