Author Topic: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.  (Read 12536 times)

lexicon

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2015, 03:27:36 PM »
Thanks for the report on the DT axle - that was going to be my next attempt if my custom fix below didn't work. I'm glad to hear the DT axle is performing well.

I fixed my loosening rear axle by doing this:
1 - Blue loctite on the threads
2 - Two rounds of Gorilla tape around the nut. As in, around the smooth circular part, not the wrench flats. I did this to fill up the space in the bracket, allowing that little set screw to dig into it.
3 - Carbon assembly paste on the contact surfaces at both ends. Probably not doing anything, but I was going for overkill.
4 - Quick release lever oriented upwards, so it can't unscrew (it would hit the frame if it did). It's not actually contacting the frame, but if it did start to rotate counterclockwise, it would make contact and stop.

I drew a small orientation mark on the nut and bolt (silver line the first photo) and can see that this has not budged.The tape is neatly trimmed so you cannot see it. I am no longer angry at this axle!






MTB2223

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2015, 01:24:10 AM »
I used also carbon paste, but it started creaking. Now I'm using a old inner tube: http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,306.msg5432.html#msg5432

lexicon

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2015, 05:46:18 AM »
Ah, yes - It was your original idea in the inner tube post that actually gave me the idea for the gorilla tape. That's probably the main thing, securing the nut better within the bracket.

carbonazza

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2015, 07:44:17 AM »
Did you see there is a threaded hole in the drop out?
Perpendicular to the axle on the nut side.
You can put a 3mm(?) headless screw to tighten the nut in the dropout.

lexicon

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2015, 07:00:05 PM »
Yes, it comes with a grub screw in it. Without the extra material around the nut it didn't effectively clamp the nut though.

Interestingly, note the indentations on a shimano brand axle nut, and I believe a single small indentation on the DT Swiss nut. That could make all the difference... Somebody could try modding the generic nut in a similar fashion. 

ya29er

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2015, 08:02:12 AM »
How stiff is this frame?

Jake

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2015, 07:08:24 AM »
And what size tire will fit in the frame?

Dawnkeeper

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2015, 03:38:38 AM »
How stiff is this frame?

Well, it is, can't say that it is not :) Haven't noticed it bending too much. Still in one piece after about 500 km of xc and a bit of trail.

Dawnkeeper

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2015, 03:48:39 AM »
And what size tire will fit in the frame?

I'm running 2.1 atm, but there is definitely room for 2.2. And 2.3 ...I think. Will measure and let you know.

Dawnkeeper

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2015, 02:53:23 PM »
Will measure and let you know.

70 mm of spce to fit in the tire (2.7 inch) and a 65 mm (2.5 inch) tight spot to push it through first :D You won't be able to build a fatboy with this frame, sorry  ;D

Jake

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #25 on: June 17, 2015, 06:29:32 AM »
That is about the same space as on my 256.
I have got a Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25 on a 30mm ID rim in there, anything bigger doesn't fit.

Has the IP-036 more space for a bigger tire?

lexicon

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #26 on: June 17, 2015, 09:07:11 AM »
That is about the same space as on my 256.
I have got a Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.25 on a 30mm ID rim in there, anything bigger doesn't fit.

Has the IP-036 more space for a bigger tire?

Here's Rocket Rons, 2.25, on 30 mm internal width rims on my 036, scale is in inches. Hope this helps:

brmeyer135

Re: Dual Suspension IP-098 build.
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2015, 01:26:26 PM »
One thing I noticed, because I figured I would need to do it myself, if I went with this frame is the long neck.
The 19" frame was 15mm shorter than my 19" 057 for TT length