Workswell WCB-M-062

[carbonazza]

The weight im aiming at is around 7,7kg 

Definitely doable, knowing it is about $1,000€ of budget per Kg you want to shave.
Yeah go for it !

Each time I pick my ~8Kg bike, it is a small pleasure rush, like having a great tool in hand.
Expect your friends to secretly hate you

[DariusXX]

Haha

I bet that is true !
I didnt fully understand your statement about price per weight shaved though hehe

My inseam is as well 34'' or 86,5cm.. so 18,5'' will be perfect

I calculated that the budget I will spend will be less then 2000€ (for a 7,7kg XC rocket i think that is cheap)
To be fair, some components have been and will be bought used, or auctions.


Some of the components have been bought:

Seatpost: china 27.2x400mm - 137g (will probably be cut down and tuned later on)
Brakes: Shimano XTR m987 brakes - 400g with 2Ti / 2 Alu bolts
Rotors: china Ashima copy 160/160 - 151g with 12Ti bolts
Crankset: FSA SL-K Modular 30T garbaruk  -  500g (estimate)
Rear der.: - XTR m986 rear der. - 200g (tuned)
Shifter - XTR m980 shifter - 100g
Cassette: Sram XX 11-36 - 207g


I hope that the frame will weight MAX 1200g with headset.. if so, i will hit my target easy

[bxcc]

I hope that the frame will weight MAX 1200g with headset.. if so, i will hit my target easy

My 062 frame weighed 1198 grams. That was the frame, 142x12 dropouts and the seat post clamp. Size 18.5 with the BSA threaded bottom bracket.

I'm 5'11" and the 18.5 fits great. I think you're on the right track with going 18.5.

[SARED]

Have anyone had more seat stay crack issues on the 062.. and those issues that some had last year.. did Workswell sort them out?

[dinsum]

Well, its winter and that means time to take everything apart, clean and re-lube everything, all done!

Bike looks weird without tires on lol

Here are the specs:

Raceface Next 725mm Carbon Handlebars 175g
Chinese carbon seatpost 167g
Chinese seatpost clamp 21.1g
Chinese carbon frame 1200g
Shimano m980 xtr rear shifter 102g
Rear shifter Cable (No housing) 17g
Shifter Housing 48g
Sram 10-speed XG-1099 Casette 210g
Ashima Ai2 160mm Rotors 140g - just switched back to shimano rt-66 rotors, they are 110 grams each but braking power is a lot better and no judder when braking
Rockshox Recon Golt TK 100mm 1791g
Shimano XTR M9000 brakes 400g
Shimano M768 XTR Shadow Plus Rear Derailleur 255g
Chinese Headset 82.1g
4ZA 60mm Stem with bolts 111.9g
Water Bottle Holder(Carbon) 17.6g
Chinese Carbon Saddle (modified with foam for comfort) 156g
Seat Cover (more comfort) 44g
Ritchey foam grips with end plugs 30g
Rocket Rons EVO 1160g
Stans Valor Carbon Rims 1302g
KMC Gold 10 Speed Chain cut to length with master links 238g
Shimano Bottom Bracket 85g
Raceface Next Cranks with 32T chainring and boots 510g
HT Me03 Pedals (weighed together, switched from titanium axles to steel, I weigh 190 lbs and didn't trust titanium as much) 274g
Front Maxle Stealth Axle 37g
Rear Sbis Axle 40g
Stans Fluid 120g
2x thick fsa spacers = 7g
top cap = 10g
top cap bolt = 9g
rotor bolts x 12 = 24g
Brake Caliper Bolts = 28g
chainstay protector = 19g

I think it weighs about 19 lbs, rock solid performer, I must say my favorite part of this bike is the stan's Valor Carbon  wheels, so light and so awesome, purchased them used, been riding them for two years, i weigh 190 lbs and i'm not too nice on the bike, wheels still spin true!

[dinsum]

I was looking into maybe getting a new frame this year

The workswell 062 frame has been great, its biggest downsides are the rear end has some flex to it, and the head angle is a bit high for my liking at 71 degrees, also was a little skeptical about the 430mm chainstay but I think that's actually a good number

I am wondering, how many people have put a 120mm fork on this frame?  I currently have a 100mm fork which should mean my HA is 70.5 degrees (since the 71 HA is based off a 90MM travel fork and for every 10mm should change the HA 0.5 degrees or so) but I would really like it around 69 - 69.5 degrees

I can remove the spacer in my fork to make it 120mm travel, but I worry a bit that 120mm travel might be too much angle for the headtube to handle, but honestly now that I think about it, it probably makes no difference to the stresses of the headtube because the headtube shouldn't see extreme forces until the fork is completely compressed and a 100mm fork and 120mm fork fully compressed is the same thing. Sure a 120mm fork will be a bit harder to fully compress over a 100mm fork but the difference should be minimal. I just kind of want to get an idea of how many people went with a 120mm fork and if they like it or not?

It seems like the 120mm fork will just add some more cushin when im pushin, make the bike slightly more plush with a slightly slacker head angle

So my biggest problem with the 71 degree head angle is sometimes I get stuffed by a big root a little easier then I would like and the bike feels slightly twitchier then I would like, switching to 120mm fork should add more plushness to compress the fork when hitting a big root and the slightly slacker head angle should also assist in this matter, does this sound right or am I doing the wrong thing here?

Thanks for any input

[bxcc]

I'm running mine with a 120mm SID now and I have no complaints. I upped the fork from 100 to 120 last winter so there were no good "back to back" rides to compare the two. I can say that I love how the bike rides and I hope that it lasts. I'm not sure what I would go with if it fails. Trek Procaliber, Transition Vanquish, or the CS-496 built as a standard 29er are all on my list.

[dinsum]

I'm running mine with a 120mm SID now and I have no complaints. I upped the fork from 100 to 120 last winter so there were no good "back to back" rides to compare the two. I can say that I love how the bike rides and I hope that it lasts. I'm not sure what I would go with if it fails. Trek Procaliber, Transition Vanquish, or the CS-496 built as a standard 29er are all on my list.

Nice,  what about the CS-041,  whats your thoughts on that frame?  I wonder if there is any frames that are like the CS-041 but cheaper, like a workswell version or something

[bxcc]

The only reason I would pass on the CS-041 is that I have a short chainstay fetish. 442mm just ins't going to cut it for me. I would rather get the CS-496 and run it as a straight 29er in the short CS position. It's tough seeing the price difference between the 2 frames though. I recently bought a frame from Peter and I'm super happy with it. The fit and finish seem to be a bit better than my Workswell frames.

[Jar_head]

That's a similar issue I'm dealing with. I changed the crankset, pedals, etc and it did not go away. I'm thinking it could be from where the metal BB insert meets the carbon frame.

Hi, do you still ride the frame/have the problem?

My BB shell is now creaking, too... I contacted Workswell and they offered me to send me a new BB shell and some glue. But I'm sure anyway that taking out the aluminum insert will damage the frame irreversible.

[numberzero]

My BB shell is now creaking, too... I contacted Workswell and they offered me to send me a new BB shell and some glue.

With workswell customer has to repair his frame by itself? Do they sent you carbon sheet and resin if frame breaks?

[nsfr1206]

Back again. I was thinking of building a gravel bike with my extra 062 frame. Bad idea? Also, which fork would you guys recommend if I do this? I don’t want a suspension fork.

[6un4]

Hey,
been following this thread for 2 years already and finally decided that it' s time
had a trail bike on ragley big wig frame. Fun bike, but horrible at pedaling.
So ordered Sobato frame ( 17'',BSA, ud matte) on ebay and tideace fork because I could not register on alliexpress.

items came in around two week time to england. well packed and without any damage.
didn' t like the boring black colour, so plan was to have a bit of fun with spray cans. did use spray.bike paints.

So this will be my previous bike with parts



Frame - Ragley big wig 16"
Fork - RoskShox Sektor RL Gold 140mm
Headset - Gusset
Stem - Pro Koryak 60mm
Bar - Renthal Fatbar Lite Carbon 740mm (180g)
Grips - Ergo GE1
Crankset - Shimano XT M8000 32T chainring
Pedals - Shimano PD520
BB - Shimano Deore HT2
Seatpost - burgtec 31.6
Seatclamp - Hope
Saddle - Specialized Phenom comp ( ~2013 )
Wheelset - Hope Pro2 Evo/ZTR Arch Ex/Sapim race(R-998g/F883g) tubeless
Tires - F-Maxxis Ikon 2.2 3c/TR/EXO  R- Maxxis Aspen 2.25 TR/EXO/120TPI + orange seal
Brakes - Shimano Deore M615
Brake Disc's - Shimano RT86 F-180mm/R-160mm
Cassette - 10 speed SunRace MX3 11-42 (389g)
Rear derailleur - Shimano SLX m7000
Shifter - Shimano Zee
Chain - Shimano XT


So most of these parts went from Ragley to this carbon frame.
I used seatpost from old road bike ( BMC granfondo ),because previous frame had 31.6mm post.
Zipp service course sl 70mm stem, cause it was little bit longer and was in the parts box )
ESI chunky grips, because I didn' t like those ergo grips at all, probably poor adjustment or something else
And in few days I will reduce travel on the fork, so it will be 100mm and then maybe paint lowers in same blue as the frame, only without white bits. SO then I will have 2 fork options )





Also at the moment rear is QR. ordered wrong adapters and hub spacing isn' t right, brake disc hits the caliper tabs.

my inacurate scales say that bike is 9kg

[tripleDot]

Are those white wavy lines hand painted? Looks pretty cool man.

[6un4]

Yes.
First painted frame and fork in white. Then applied some hair gel on it ( random lines, thicker lines work much better ) and then painted it all blue. Removed hair gel and you can see the result )


Here you can see gel under blue paint ( actually really liked it in plain blue )