Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

Started by patliean1, October 23, 2024, 08:29:27 AM

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Tijoe

Quote from: pandinoyoung on October 27, 2024, 08:57:35 AM
strange, 2 days ago it cost 589$, that I had put in the cart. now 629$.
it's about 120$ more than the velobuild 268 in my pole position.
I'm undecided

anyway PAT we vote for you, do the comparison

There are a lot of price increases before the 11-11 sale.   Part of the strategy to make you believe you are getting a better sale price during the sale.

pandinoyoung


zett

They also sent me another pic of the fork (didn't even ask for it) with 28 mm tires installed. Good clearance for wider tires as well as far as I can tell.

Still not sure if I should go for it. I really want a lightweight-ish frame though and the geometry is just spot on...

TidyDinosaur

Quote from: zett on October 30, 2024, 04:44:07 AM
Still not sure if I should go for it. I really want a lightweight-ish frame though and the geometry is just spot on...

It depends I guess.... If you always ride alone it could be OK, but if you do group rides, there will definitely be some real SL8's and it will be a little (or a lot) embarrassing to ride a fake...

Cnasta

Quote from: TidyDinosaur on October 30, 2024, 04:50:10 AM
It depends I guess.... If you always ride alone it could be OK, but if you do group rides, there will definitely be some real SL8's and it will be a little (or a lot) embarrassing to ride a fake...

Unless of course you put no specialialized/SL8 logo's on the fake bike and beat them at every KOM on your bike that's only 1/10th of the price of theirs :)

Takiyaki

Quote from: patliean1 on October 26, 2024, 06:17:42 PM
$629 frame + $150 shipping + $31 PayPal convenience fee = $810 And that doesn't include custom paint which is probably another $70. So probably $900 USD total

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't super intrigued about getting the frameset, slapping on some decals, and comparing it to my SL8. But $900 is a lot to gamble on. Especially when previous homage-type frames were decent for the price but missed the mark when comparing to their western brand counter-parts. A comparison probably unfair to make anyway.

Even if I convinced TanTan to send me a frame for review, they told me they aren't promoting this frame. For obvious reasons.

I still want one because....budget frames is life.
I would not get one if I already had an SL8. I am currently building an R5 clone.... I have no idea how an R5 rides so I won't know what I'm missing.

Quote from: Cnasta on October 30, 2024, 05:17:10 AM
Unless of course you put no specialialized/SL8 logo's on the fake bike and beat them at every KOM on your bike that's only 1/10th of the price of theirs :)
You could do that with pretty much any China brand bike though, without the silliness of trying to pass off a counterfeit frame as real.

zett

Of course I wouldn't put a fake S-Works logo on it, that would be extremely silly... I think it's fine to see such a frame as heavily inspired by the original, but standing on its own. It's not an exact replica, after all (otherwise we wouldn't be talking about tire clearance etc.).

toxin

Fuck you mean it's not an exact replica? I bet that shit was 3d scanned, imported to cad and went straight to mold design

zett

Quote from: toxin on October 30, 2024, 09:20:34 AM
Fuck you mean it's not an exact replica? I bet that shit was 3d scanned, imported to cad and went straight to mold design

I guess you're right... I just want to spin it positively perhaps. ::)

Pistonbroke

C'mon Mr.Lino, just hurry up and order one so you can tell us how it compares to a real SL8...
I bet it's just gnawing away at you. Pretty soon you won't be able to think about anything else ;D

bremerradkurier

T-Werks labels in the Specialized font would be fun and cheeky.

bremerradkurier

I knew someone with a yellow Specialized in the '90s that removed the i and the z from the down tube labels and added Short Bus model labels.

patliean1

Quote from: Pistonbroke on October 30, 2024, 12:15:52 PM
C'mon Mr.Lino, just hurry up and order one so you can tell us how it compares to a real SL8...
I bet it's just gnawing away at you. Pretty soon you won't be able to think about anything else ;D

What it be douchey of me to start a GoFundMe to raise funds? Everyone donates $15 haha

My monthly YouTube revenue and OnlyFan accounts aren't as lucrative as it seems...

Takiyaki

I would reach out to Tantan to see if they'll send you a frame....

BeR

Quote from: Takiyaki on October 31, 2024, 10:16:58 AM
I would reach out to Tantan to see if they'll send you a frame....

It is best to order the frame as an anonymous in order to don't have a "special" QC because of the notoriety.