Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 12488 times)

LowPaceKingdom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #105 on: November 26, 2024, 09:33:37 AM »
I’m excited to share that I’ve officially commissioned the TT-X68 as a "Full Build"! After thorough consideration and planning, I decided to go with Tantan.

As per the timeline provided, the full build will take approximately 25-30 working days to complete. Following that, there will be an additional 10-15 days for shipping, so I anticipate its arrival in mid-end January.

I’ll keep you all updated on the progress and, of course, will share pictures and initial impressions once it arrives. If interested.


BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #107 on: November 26, 2024, 10:35:00 AM »
FYI, the min seatpost insertion length is 100 mm with the 380 mm. For the original SL8, it is 75 mm.

Edit : Correction of min/max
« Last Edit: November 26, 2024, 12:05:34 PM by BeR »

fhill

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #108 on: November 26, 2024, 11:34:08 AM »
FYI, the max seatpost length is 100 mm with the 380 mm. For the original SL8, it is 75 mm.

You mean the minimum insert into Frame?

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #109 on: November 26, 2024, 12:04:51 PM »
You mean the minimum insert into Frame?

Yes, you are right.

rasch

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #110 on: November 26, 2024, 09:22:02 PM »
I’m excited to share that I’ve officially commissioned the TT-X68 as a "Full Build"! After thorough consideration and planning, I decided to go with Tantan.

As per the timeline provided, the full build will take approximately 25-30 working days to complete. Following that, there will be an additional 10-15 days for shipping, so I anticipate its arrival in mid-end January.

I’ll keep you all updated on the progress and, of course, will share pictures and initial impressions once it arrives. If interested.

Can you share prices and specs?

nabilou

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #111 on: November 27, 2024, 03:27:25 AM »
i believe, like others, it s exactly the same frame already sold by airwolf
https://airwolfcarbonbike.com/product/2024-new-painting-light-weight-brand-sw-carbon-road-bicycle-frame-t1100-carbon-disc-brake-sl-bike-frame-bsa-bottom-bracket-with-handlebar/

exactly the same geometry (SL8 copy)-> difference of 3mm on the effective top tube for the 52 (531vs 528) , but is it true when you analyse the pictures?

same BB : BSA
same spacers
almost the same weight and we can say same weight if we take into account the error margin

not verifiable differences:
light differences about the paint or sticker
28c vs 32C
Di2 or Mechanical vs only electrical
headset diameter 49mm vs 52mm

and probably 30 min by car between the 2 headquarters

But i agree that most SL8 fakes get 49/49.5mm for the headset (same diameter for specialized), i have never seen a fake model with 52mm. if it is the case the probability that tantan build the frame increases
« Last Edit: November 27, 2024, 06:41:20 AM by nabilou »

LowPaceKingdom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #112 on: November 27, 2024, 07:35:25 AM »
Can you share prices and specs?

Details ==> see Pictures
Frame: Size 54 cm
Groupset: Shimano 105 di2
Wheelset: "50×28mm tubeless Wave Wheel Ceramic Titanium hub 54T center lock Carbon spoke" on their website ; titanium hubs ; Carbon spokes ; Matt finish ; ≈≈1305G

Pricing:
TT-X68 Bike Shimano R7170 Groupset/carbon wheels
HB068:110*400mm 54cm black matte                                          US$2,289.00
Saddle SD4000 (bought 2 saddles Sd4000 and sd 2000)                 US$59.00
Extra carbon spokes+nipples     10 pieces                                      US$60.00
Total                                                                                           US$2,408.00
Shipping By DPD                                                                          US$280.00
PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders                                     (US$132.00)
Grand Total                                                                                 US$2,820.00
I paid                                                                                          2729 EURO         
!!exchanged by my Bank (2% fee) (Paypal has rly bad exchange rate)!!
will also go for custom painting "white chameleon"                       +  90dollar


PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders for (Protection)  ---> !!U can dodge this by paying ( family and friends option) but u loose protection!!




BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #113 on: November 27, 2024, 07:38:44 AM »
Details ==> see Pictures
Frame: Size 54 cm
Groupset: Shimano 105 di2
Wheelset: "50×28mm tubeless Wave Wheel Ceramic Titanium hub 54T center lock Carbon spoke" on their website ; titanium hubs ; Carbon spokes ; Matt finish ; ≈≈1305G

Pricing:
TT-X68 Bike Shimano R7170 Groupset/carbon wheels
HB068:110*400mm 54cm black matte                                          US$2,289.00
Saddle SD4000 (bought 2 saddles Sd4000 and sd 2000)                 US$59.00
Extra carbon spokes+nipples     10 pieces                                      US$60.00
Total                                                                                           US$2,408.00
Shipping By DPD                                                                          US$280.00
PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders                                     (US$132.00)
Grand Total                                                                                 US$2,820.00
I paid                                                                                          2729 EURO         
!!exchanged by my Bank (2% fee) (Paypal has rly bad exchange rate)!!
will also go for custom painting "white chameleon"                       +  90dollar


PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders for (Protection)  ---> !!U can dodge this by paying ( family and friends option) but u loose protection!!

Will they build the bike for you ?

LowPaceKingdom

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #114 on: November 27, 2024, 08:12:26 AM »
To be honest i dont really know.
It is my first time that i buy something from china directly.
I think they will build this bike "half way" . thats at least what i can interpretate from our communications.
They will "send photos once its completed" 25-30 workdays.




rasch

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #115 on: November 27, 2024, 08:44:27 AM »
Details ==> see Pictures
Frame: Size 54 cm
Groupset: Shimano 105 di2
Wheelset: "50×28mm tubeless Wave Wheel Ceramic Titanium hub 54T center lock Carbon spoke" on their website ; titanium hubs ; Carbon spokes ; Matt finish ; ≈≈1305G

Pricing:
TT-X68 Bike Shimano R7170 Groupset/carbon wheels
HB068:110*400mm 54cm black matte                                          US$2,289.00
Saddle SD4000 (bought 2 saddles Sd4000 and sd 2000)                 US$59.00
Extra carbon spokes+nipples     10 pieces                                      US$60.00
Total                                                                                           US$2,408.00
Shipping By DPD                                                                          US$280.00
PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders                                     (US$132.00)
Grand Total                                                                                 US$2,820.00
I paid                                                                                          2729 EURO         
!!exchanged by my Bank (2% fee) (Paypal has rly bad exchange rate)!!
will also go for custom painting "white chameleon"                       +  90dollar


PayPal Fee 5% commission on total orders for (Protection)  ---> !!U can dodge this by paying ( family and friends option) but u loose protection!!

Thanks. Overall I'd say the price is right for all the specs. Not easy to get it cheaper.

Did you consider wheeltop instead of 105 di2?

nabilou

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #116 on: November 27, 2024, 09:19:58 AM »
Details ==> see Pictures
Frame: Size 54 cm
Groupset: Shimano 105 di2


how do you connect DI2 FD to the battery without drilling an hole?

BeR

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #117 on: November 27, 2024, 09:40:25 AM »
how do you connect DI2 FD to the battery without drilling an hole?

Hello SRAM  ;D,

You are right :

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #118 on: November 27, 2024, 09:57:49 AM »
how do you connect DI2 FD to the battery without drilling an hole?

Shitttttt, no hole for FD Di2.... Send them a message about it. It's a no-go for me, since I already have the groupset (2x11sp Di2 Ultegra).

Other option is the Speeder 55D, but it's about 350/400 usd more expensive or the Velobuild 268 that is a tiny bit heavier and seems to know some problems....

CoreX88

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #119 on: November 27, 2024, 10:52:49 AM »
Hi there, I have one ordered as well. I think cables are routed the same way as on the SL8. Page 22 in the instruction manual of the SL8.