Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1473755 times)

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #225 on: January 20, 2025, 07:51:31 AM »
No fancy metallic colors?

Yes, they have metallics. I went with the stock pearl white but explored other options and tantan send me a number of metallics using the YS paint codes common among Chinese builders.


WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #227 on: January 20, 2025, 08:17:35 AM »
I love all the waffle in this forum but has anyone got photos?

The couple of people that have bought it have posted photos

OlHag Cyclismo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #228 on: January 20, 2025, 09:51:01 AM »
Thnx for the detailed listing. Could you share your height and maybe inner leg lenght?

I'm 5'-10" to 5'-11", inner leg length i would say is normal. I've always run size 54 bikes (cervelo, giant, scott), so I'm expecting this to fit similarly. You can use BikeInsights.com to compare frame geometry's. I compared my now old Cervelo R3 to the SL8 (TTX68 is exact same geometry), and found 6mm more reach and 11mm lower stack.

Yozha

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #229 on: January 20, 2025, 10:14:19 AM »
My Seraph/ TanTan TT X 68 Build - Size 54 - Matte Black

6.94kg - $2900ish all in. Weight is plus or minus 50gwith grease, and misc hardware not accounted for.
I acquired most of these parts used over the course of 4-5 months, via ebay and facebook. I learned about most of the build options, not named shimano, from this site or via youtube (GC Performance, Pat Lino, China Cycling, etc...). I also built this bike by myself, first time ever doing a frame-up build, and used GC's SL8 bike build and his other videos.


Cool build for the weight and price - just fire!
Tell about the feel, how well the bike rides, how stiff is the frame? What branded bikes can you compare it to?

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #230 on: January 20, 2025, 02:20:47 PM »
My Seraph/ TanTan TT X 68 Build - Size 54 - Matte Black


Future Weight Weenie Options:
HY Seatpost - 130g - $167 (saves 36g)
Avian Canary - 266g - $300 approximately (saves 60g)
BDOP 11-30 Cassette - 126g - $160 (saves 104g)
Xcadey/ Lexon 53/39 - 600g - $615 (saves 153g)
J&L Axles - 47g - $40(saves 15g)
Tofu Comtura Prima 28 Tires - 480g - $120 (saves 153g over current tires)
Wheels - 1150-1200g - $800 to infinity (plenty of options here)
Saddle - 100-130g - $40 to infinity (plenty of options here)

I'm curious  about the seatpost-I'd like a zero offset option, but upthread tantan told someone that an actual sl8 seatpost doesn't swap in...

Cnasta

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #231 on: January 21, 2025, 02:49:44 AM »
I'm 5'-10" to 5'-11", inner leg length i would say is normal. I've always run size 54 bikes (cervelo, giant, scott), so I'm expecting this to fit similarly. You can use BikeInsights.com to compare frame geometry's. I compared my now old Cervelo R3 to the SL8 (TTX68 is exact same geometry), and found 6mm more reach and 11mm lower stack.

Thanks, same length here (but in the normal metric system :P ) Also on 54 on different brands (or S in case of canyon).

I'm also eyeballing a different crank/powermeter. Not sure if everything fits on this frame. Which combi Xcadey/Lexon are you considering als an future update?

OlHag Cyclismo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #232 on: January 21, 2025, 08:53:40 AM »
Thanks, same length here (but in the normal metric system :P ) Also on 54 on different brands (or S in case of canyon).

I'm also eyeballing a different crank/powermeter. Not sure if everything fits on this frame. Which combi Xcadey/Lexon are you considering als an future update?
Likely 170 cranks as i have that on all my bikes. Don't see any 5 bolt 130bcd options, so probably going to go with their 4 bolt 110 bcd and their 54/40 chainrings. I'd probably go with the 24mm titanium spindle as well, for compatibility and availability of BB's across the different shell sizes.

OlHag Cyclismo

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #233 on: January 21, 2025, 09:17:48 AM »
Cool build for the weight and price - just fire!
Tell about the feel, how well the bike rides, how stiff is the frame? What branded bikes can you compare it to?
I won't get a good feel for this frame until spring, as i'm parked on the trainer most of the time. Just spinning it around the neighborhood for 5 minutes, the ride is nice. I'll have a better feel for the ride and stiffness in a few months. I'll be comparing this frameset to a 2014 cervelo r3, winspace t1500 (in progress trainer/ crit bike build), and previous aluminum scott speedster (tractor of a bike compared to the ttx68).

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #234 on: January 23, 2025, 07:36:25 AM »
What's likely to be the better choice, this one or the one from taiwan eisen?

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #235 on: January 23, 2025, 07:48:55 AM »
What's likely to be the better choice, this one or the one from taiwan eisen?


Probably the seraph/Tantan since they are a brick and mortar company that owns their factories

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #236 on: January 23, 2025, 08:08:06 AM »
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan.

WWcyclist

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #237 on: January 23, 2025, 08:29:52 AM »
I suspect they're from the same source. I don't care for taiwaneisen's marketing-everything is a counterfeit branded and they even use a deceptive company name-so I bought from tantan.


Maybe, I wonder if they produce their own in house because of the bigger bearings

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #238 on: January 23, 2025, 09:03:55 AM »
Thanks folks!

I'm sold to TanTan, only have to clarify the paint options.

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #239 on: January 23, 2025, 09:34:28 AM »
Not enough photos in here  >:(