Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[Tom77]

I got the SRAM RED E1 crank für 270$ new coming 310g, no-brainer.
The complete unit with powermeter and Shimano chainrings comes at 560g.

[user757]

Any opinions from those who have integrated handlebars like those on the X68 that have a fixed angle? Is it not too limiting? Obviously it comes down to how the rest of the bike fits as well and so I'm guessing opinions are mixed.

[jerozilla]

Any opinions from those who have integrated handlebars like those on the X68 that have a fixed angle? Is it not too limiting? Obviously it comes down to how the rest of the bike fits as well and so I'm guessing opinions are mixed.

Also curious about this or if anyone knows some integrated bar/stem setups without the huge drops like -10 degrees etc. Im running black Inc ones with -6 degree which is a big change going from a +6.

But yes thats the limiting factor of the integrated bar/stem, you're set in that ecosystem with no tweaking.

[Sander2177]

What have all you guys who have a frame paid? Or what have you been quoted?
Been quoted UD matte black or gloss
$589usd
$150 postag inc taxes
5% PayPal

[makl]

What have all you guys who have a frame paid? Or what have you been quoted?
Been quoted UD matte black or gloss
$589usd
$150 postag inc taxes
5% PayPal

Same!

[Davidhe23]

What have all you guys who have a frame paid? Or what have you been quoted?
Been quoted UD matte black or gloss
$589usd
$150 postag inc taxes
5% PayPal

Same price. I think they are out of stock now. I ordered the frame a week ago

[fhill]

Vivian is answering in real-time by whatsapp

I'm still waiting for any replies... At this point I'm just disapointed that not a single thing has been shipped after 2 months...

[dovh]

I have been in contact with them a couple of times, paid my frame on the 16th of January and when i asked them abotu ETA they said that the frame should be finished around 25th of February.
I was chatting with them couple of times since then and i got a message yesterday that the frame should be done next week and they will ship it. I wasn't expecting much of a support or communication from them but i think being a week or two late on this is okayish in the end. I'll update the post when they ship it out. 

[Sander2177]

Same price. I think they are out of stock now. I ordered the frame a week ago

Vivian at Tan tan has quoted shipping in 15-20 days  with shipping to UK 10-18 days

[user757]

Hi,

I got an invoice of TanTan for this frame. Paypal fee are 5%, with alipay there is no fee. Addidionally the exchange rate at paypal is also very bad. How did you guys paid your frame at TanTan?

Have someone experience with wise?

Thanks!

BR Markus

How did you end up paying? Do they charge you before making the frame (I'm assuming it's before) or after it's complete?

[Sander2177]

How did you end up paying? Do they charge you before making the frame (I'm assuming it's before) or after it's complete?

You pay up front.
They may accept bank transfer which would be better.
Or maybe a credit card payment link.
But you get some sort of protection with paypal

[glepore]

I have been in contact with them a couple of times, paid my frame on the 16th of January and when i asked them abotu ETA they said that the frame should be finished around 25th of February.
I was chatting with them couple of times since then and i got a message yesterday that the frame should be done next week and they will ship it. I wasn't expecting much of a support or communication from them but i think being a week or two late on this is okayish in the end. I'll update the post when they ship it out.

Paid for mine 1/13 and finally got a reply yesterday that "its still in paint". Given that its stock white, I'm a little disappointed. Oh well. Either they have had more demand than expected or supply issues.

[Sander2177]

Paid for mine 1/13 and finally got a reply yesterday that "its still in paint". Given that its stock white, I'm a little disappointed. Oh well. Either they have had more demand than expected or supply issues.

You think they keep stock?!
They make to order and they still have a backlog still due to Chinese New Year which they are still catching up on.
I would say 8-10 weeks for a frame at the moment

[Takiyaki]

I'm torn on this frame, especially after my rant about counterfeits earlier. As an owner of a genuine SL8, it's hard to justify buying this, even though the price and reviews have been very positive. A detailed review and comparison against the real deal by your good self! would definitely help me decide, as I'm considering a budget build to replace my Winspace SL2.0 frame and Hyper wheels, which aren't getting any love at the moment. I already have Ultegra Di2, and the new XM Carbon Speed T1100 wheels look amazing—I even emailed Peter about them. Now, I just need a frame, and I'm stuck choosing between an open-mold/copy, a branded Chinese frame, or waiting for Quick Pro Area to release the ER:ONE next month.  There is just so much choice t the moment its makes my head spin!

If I had to pick a "do it all" Chinese frameset right now it would be the SLC 3.0. Seems like it takes everything I like about the SL8, then drops the weight and runs a conventional round seatpost. I just finished a build but I wish I had gone with the SLC. I think it came out after I ordered my frame. Worth a look

[Sander2177]

If I had to pick a "do it all" Chinese frameset right now it would be the SLC 3.0. Seems like it takes everything I like about the SL8, then drops the weight and runs a conventional round seatpost. I just finished a build but I wish I had gone with the SLC. I think it came out after I ordered my frame. Worth a look

Hmmm, I’ve considered the SLC3 as a potential replacement for the SLC2 frame I currently have. I can actually get Winspace products at trade price and i I’ve bought their wheels, but I tend to buy less from them now. Other companies like XM Carbon Speed offer wheels that are cheaper and better specced, and honestly, I’m not keen on the aesthetics of Winspace frames.
What frame was your build?