Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[makl]

Sure. Examples are raw, "UD-matte" and "UD-glossy".

[Sander2177]

Sure. Examples are raw, "UD-matte" and "UD-glossy".

Thanks Makl 
I have changed my frame now to UD Glossy

[Sander2177]

Hey all, we have almost finished the build yesterday.
It's not entirely finished, but I have to wait with the handlebar tape until I get to the bike fit guy to set it up properly for me.
Here is the photo of the almost finished bike. It weighs a little over 8kg in size 58 and has quite heavy wheels and tires. With better wheels and tires that I hope to get soonish(tm), I should be able to save around 500-550g with that alone.

Some notes from building the bike. Brakes, we're not that hard to center. It took some finicking, but my friend managed to do it in about 20 minutes or so. Routing cables and hoses were also not that hard, but be careful so you don't drop the metal plate holding the front derailleur in the seat post tube. It was a pain to finagle it back in place.. Otherwise, everything was relatively straightforward. The headtube was finished nicely, and the bearing sat firmly there with no play. Also, the gap under the spacers is not bad after compressing it (see picture).


Can't attach pictures here. It crashes the page, so it's here on google drive - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AEk9xj3Kvf6tfcz9mtWzV21S3gj--7qY?usp=sharing

So what are your thoughts on the Ryet OSPW? Just noticed it on the bike hows it performing as I was planning on for my build

[patliean1]

What was the cost + paint + shipping for a frameset?

I realized tariffs just started lol

[Sander2177]

What was the cost + paint + shipping for a frameset?

I realized tariffs just started lol

UD Matte or Gloss Frame and Bars $589 (AS YOU KNOW CUSTOM PAINT COLOUR PRICE VARY UP TO $150USD)
Headset/Thru Axles $20
Shipping $150
paypal 5% $36
Total $795

Or Patrick price with an email to Vivian $0usd Lol

[dovh]

So what are your thoughts on the Ryet OSPW? Just noticed it on the bike hows it performing as I was planning on for my build

I must say that it's my first time using any OSPW, so besides it looking cool, I'm not sure what benefits it brings. The shifter's performance is amazing, and it shifts almost instantly and precisely. It didn't make it any worse, for sure. I would recommend the Ryet OSWP. My friend recommended it to me, and he's also happy with it.

[fhill]

The SL8 battery holder that clamps with the expanding holder via Screw works just fine on the TT X68, have mounted it just now. Sits well in the seatpost! Bike is finally ready. Bit heavier than expected/hoped for. 7.5 kg with Ultegra Di2 11s, Equator 45 with Pirelli PZero TLR 32mm, 11-32 ZTTO cassette, Onirii pedals, Sram Red cranks. Will be a fair bit lighter with the new wheelset and 28mm Conti GP5000 S TR

[Sander2177]

I must say that it's my first time using any OSPW, so besides it looking cool, I'm not sure what benefits it brings. The shifter's performance is amazing, and it shifts almost instantly and precisely. It didn't make it any worse, for sure. I would recommend the Ryet OSWP. My friend recommended it to me, and he's also happy with it.

dovh thanks for getting back to me 
I have pulled the trigger and ordered this OSPW
I am almost doing a mirror build of my Genuine SL8 as I have the Ceramicspeed OSPW and well this does look very good!
I also have have ordered a Ryet Saddle and some other bits.
Hoping to get this build down to sub 6.8kgs
How the bike riding?

[dovh]

dovh thanks for getting back to me 
I have pulled the trigger and ordered this OSPW
I am almost doing a mirror build of my Genuine SL8 as I have the Ceramicspeed OSPW and well this does look very good!
I also have have ordered a Ryet Saddle and some other bits.
Hoping to get this build down to sub 6.8kgs
How the bike riding?

Nice stuff! It's very similar to what I ended up with. I also got a direct mount but did not use it since I felt it didn't fit on there very well. Compared to the hanger Tantan sent with the bike, the edge around thru axle hole and screw hole were quite a bit higher, and when mounted to the bike, it was sticking out inwards.

As for how the bike rides, I only have about 40km on the bike so far, and it feels really good. It's stiff but not uncomfortable, but then again, I can only compare it to the entry-level aluminum bike I had before. This is miles better in terms of riding comfort and feel in comparison.
Also, I'm about to head out for a 100k ride today, so we'll see how it feels on a longer ride

[Sander2177]

Nice stuff! It's very similar to what I ended up with. I also got a direct mount but did not use it since I felt it didn't fit on there very well. Compared to the hanger Tantan sent with the bike, the edge around thru axle hole and screw hole were quite a bit higher, and when mounted to the bike, it was sticking out inwards.

As for how the bike rides, I only have about 40km on the bike so far, and it feels really good. It's stiff but not uncomfortable, but then again, I can only compare it to the entry-level aluminum bike I had before. This is miles better in terms of riding comfort and feel in comparison.
Also, I'm about to head out for a 100k ride today, so we'll see how it feels on a longer ride

Good to know about hanger hmmm well if it does not fit well i can bin it  as well who know when the frame arrives hopefully earlier tan estimates!

Main thing to hear is there are no issue with the frame and yes give feedback on your 100K 
Enjoy your ride!

[Davidhe23]

Is that you Black people or black people?
Hows the build going?

I have already finished it, after about 300km with it I can say that everything is going perfectly. I have had some problem with the tightening of the seatpost, but usually everything is correct.
I don't know if to attach photos since I have vinylized it with specialized logos and I don't know if this is the right place to do it.
I must also say that looking at images of Eissen I firmly believe that it is 100% the same replica, I do not think it will be built by Tantan.

[glepore]

I must also say that looking at images of Eissen I firmly believe that it is 100% the same replica, I do not think it will be built by Tantan.

Eissen quotes a weight (with a photo) of almost 100g less than tantan, so I don't think the source is the same, regardless. I think the headset bearings may also be different sizes.

[Sander2177]

Eissen quotes a weight (with a photo) of almost 100g less than tantan, so I don't think the source is the same, regardless. I think the headset bearings may also be different sizes.

From what I have been sent unfinished unpainted  frame weights are broadly similar within 5% which is generally the accepted tolerance.
So it’s just splitting hairs personally I don’t want a copy as light as my genuine frame which painted 54cm is 700grams
I’m hoping the Tan Tan I have ordered comes in at claimed weight which is there finished at around 836grams
I’m gonna do a sheet to predict weight but I am aiming for 6.8kgs predald and bottle cages.
Anyway Tawain Eisen Peter appears to have gone AWOL so I’m glad I ordered from TanTan!

[Sander2177]

I have already finished it, after about 300km with it I can say that everything is going perfectly. I have had some problem with the tightening of the seatpost, but usually everything is correct.
I don't know if to attach photos since I have vinylized it with specialized logos and I don't know if this is the right place to do it.
I must also say that looking at images of Eissen I firmly believe that it is 100% the same replica, I do not think it will be built by Tantan.

Is that problems with the seatpost rail clamps or the frame clamp?
Any issues myself I will buy a genuine one only £20
If it’s the screw and barrel I have a spare and some fine carbon paste will sort it

[dovh]

Good to know about hanger hmmm well if it does not fit well i can bin it  as well who know when the frame arrives hopefully earlier tan estimates!

Main thing to hear is there are no issue with the frame and yes give feedback on your 100K 
Enjoy your ride!

It was a bit shy of 100k, but it was a really nice ride. The front brake had some issues, but that is unrelated to the frame.
The ride was really nice, and the frame felt really good. I did some quick sprints on to the small hills, hitting over 900w, and all was good, no creaks or anything. On my old bike, I would sometimes hear brake rub and some strange noises from the bottom bracket area when doing similar power outputs (though not measured) on the same sections.

I'm still surprised by how hard/stiff yet comfortable the frame feels. It may be normal for carbon frame bikes, but this is my first experience with one.