Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?

[glepore]

If I want to mount a Sram DUB crankset, which BB would you recommend among these?

https://ztto.net/products/ztto-bicycle-bsa-dub-bottom-bracket-sealed-bearing-english-thread-68-73mm-bsa68-shell-28-99mm-spline-axis-mtb-road-bike-crank?variant=41868350161052

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bb-dub-bsa-a1

Any other models to suggest?

Thanks

I've not had issues with Sram BB's but their reputation is less than stellar. But they're cheap.
I used a ceramic BB from Acer, more expensive though. I'm not on DUB but on gxp.
Enduro BB's, Wheels Manufacturing BB's are others I've had good luck with. Token as well...

[kubackje]

If I want to mount a Sram DUB crankset, which BB would you recommend among these?

https://ztto.net/products/ztto-bicycle-bsa-dub-bottom-bracket-sealed-bearing-english-thread-68-73mm-bsa68-shell-28-99mm-spline-axis-mtb-road-bike-crank?variant=41868350161052

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bb-dub-bsa-a1

Any other models to suggest?

Thanks

My new favorite bottom brackets are the ones from BIKONE . Really good quality and price.

[patliean1]

Hi Patrick,
since you have to paint the frame, do you think it is better to apply them under clear for greater durability and/or less attention during washing?
Thanks

You'll need be very careful when applying the clearcoat over the decals so that clearcoat actually adheres. The decals have a smooth surface. Very light coats to slowly building up the coat so it doesn't run/drip.

[Bonus79]

You'll need be very careful when applying the clearcoat over the decals so that clearcoat actually adheres. The decals have a smooth surface. Very light coats to slowly building up the coat so it doesn't run/drip.

I would have a professional painter do the job, so it wouldn't be a problem.
I'm just wondering whether to apply the stickers over or under clear coat...under clear coat I would have greater protection/durability of the stickers, over clear coat I would have the convenience of being able to change them without problems if I decided to change (writing, color or graphics).
Undecided....

[glepore]

Your painter is happy producing fakes and likes the idea of prison?
If you add the stickers on top, you can sell the bike as a clone by removing them before hand. Otherwise, it's a crime in most jurisdictions, afaik. It's still cringe and illegal, but at least you can play it down because the stickers are removable.

He's not going to prison. He might get a letter from a Specialized atty and have to disgorge his profits (LOL) , but trademark violation isn't a CRIME. And doing one bike isn't like being Taiwan Eissen.
I get that you cringe. But don't overblow it. And its not really malum in se to possess an item that violates patent or trademark. It is however civilly prohibited to produce same.
And yes, the reason I went with decals over clear is that they're removable and if I ever sell the bike, it would be without stickers and as an x68.

[pandinoyoung]

Your painter is happy producing fakes and likes the idea of prison?
If you add the stickers on top, you can sell the bike as a clone by removing them before hand. Otherwise, it's a crime in most jurisdictions, afaik. It's still cringe and illegal, but at least you can play it down because the stickers are removable.

come on don't drink too much wine

[Tom77]

My confidence in tan tan is going south, 6 weeks since payment and frame not painted yet

[Sander2177]

My confidence in tan tan ISU going south, 6 weeks since payment and frame not painted yet

You'll get the frame eventually.
Unfortunately, I don't think communication is Tan Tan's strong point, judging by this thread.
They throw out 20–25 day manufacturing times (not including delivery), but 25 days for me is this Friday—and based on what I'm seeing, I'd be surprised if it's even ready to ship.
They really should be more upfront about lead times. I think people would still buy the frame even with a longer wait, as long as expectations were clear.
I fully expect it to take longer than quoted, so it's no big deal—but honesty would go a long way.

I appreciate it's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. I think one guy waited 90 days including delivery—though that might be an extreme case, as some people have received theirs more quickly.
From what I gather, it's the paint that causes most of the delay. I was quoted just 7–10 days for a raw frame.

[glepore]

I'm the 90 day guy. I'm giving them credit for the New Year and the backlog that may have created. But I think that there is a bottleneck somewhere, either because they're outsourcing the construction of the frame or their paint shop is forever backlogged.
Realistically, I think you're looking at 45-60 days from payment to release from paint, and then shipping time (which was over 20 days to USA, but I got held up on the Asian end for customs outbound inspection).
The communication after payment and prior to shipment remained cordial but less energetic than prior to payment.

[JImportante]

Feedback from Vivian just now, about my order (ordered19th march)

"The frame is finished.
Waiting for warehouse processing and packaging.
I'll take a picture for you this afternoon.
Very busy.
The warehouse has not had time to process it yet."

Light in a tunnel... 

[Avalius]

Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless

[JImportante]

Below is a photo of my frame in size 58, weight 890g, chameleon white - you can see the effect in the close-up photo 

[kvnp]

Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless

Did you use the special mount provided with the frame ? It looks like this :

https://www.bikegarage.cc/components/front-brake-adapter/specialized-aethos-tarmac-sl8-disc-brake-adaptor-black-flat-mount-s200700001-36

[Avalius]

Did you use the special mount provided with the frame ? It looks like this :

https://www.bikegarage.cc/components/front-brake-adapter/specialized-aethos-tarmac-sl8-disc-brake-adaptor-black-flat-mount-s200700001-36

Yeah, ended up running old ultegra 11 speed calipers on ltwoo.

[Sander2177]

Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless

Looks great
But I wish they would not paint over the edges of the BB
Just means it have to be faced