Author Topic: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?  (Read 1476344 times)

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #690 on: April 23, 2025, 07:28:28 AM »
If I want to mount a Sram DUB crankset, which BB would you recommend among these?

https://ztto.net/products/ztto-bicycle-bsa-dub-bottom-bracket-sealed-bearing-english-thread-68-73mm-bsa68-shell-28-99mm-spline-axis-mtb-road-bike-crank?variant=41868350161052

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bb-dub-bsa-a1

Any other models to suggest?

Thanks

I've not had issues with Sram BB's but their reputation is less than stellar. But they're cheap.
I used a ceramic BB from Acer, more expensive though. I'm not on DUB but on gxp.
Enduro BB's, Wheels Manufacturing BB's are others I've had good luck with. Token as well...

kubackje

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #691 on: April 23, 2025, 08:16:07 AM »
If I want to mount a Sram DUB crankset, which BB would you recommend among these?

https://ztto.net/products/ztto-bicycle-bsa-dub-bottom-bracket-sealed-bearing-english-thread-68-73mm-bsa68-shell-28-99mm-spline-axis-mtb-road-bike-crank?variant=41868350161052

https://www.sram.com/en/sram/models/bb-dub-bsa-a1

Any other models to suggest?

Thanks

My new favorite bottom brackets are the ones from BIKONE . Really good quality and price.

patliean1

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #692 on: April 23, 2025, 08:38:15 AM »
Hi Patrick,
since you have to paint the frame, do you think it is better to apply them under clear for greater durability and/or less attention during washing?
Thanks

You'll need be very careful when applying the clearcoat over the decals so that clearcoat actually adheres. The decals have a smooth surface. Very light coats to slowly building up the coat so it doesn't run/drip.

Bonus79

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #693 on: April 23, 2025, 09:12:41 AM »
You'll need be very careful when applying the clearcoat over the decals so that clearcoat actually adheres. The decals have a smooth surface. Very light coats to slowly building up the coat so it doesn't run/drip.
I would have a professional painter do the job, so it wouldn't be a problem.
I'm just wondering whether to apply the stickers over or under clear coat...under clear coat I would have greater protection/durability of the stickers, over clear coat I would have the convenience of being able to change them without problems if I decided to change (writing, color or graphics).
Undecided....

glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #694 on: April 23, 2025, 01:11:28 PM »
Your painter is happy producing fakes and likes the idea of prison?
If you add the stickers on top, you can sell the bike as a clone by removing them before hand. Otherwise, it's a crime in most jurisdictions, afaik. It's still cringe and illegal, but at least you can play it down because the stickers are removable.
He's not going to prison. He might get a letter from a Specialized atty and have to disgorge his profits (LOL) , but trademark violation isn't a CRIME. And doing one bike isn't like being Taiwan Eissen.
I get that you cringe. But don't overblow it. And its not really malum in se to possess an item that violates patent or trademark. It is however civilly prohibited to produce same.
And yes, the reason I went with decals over clear is that they're removable and if I ever sell the bike, it would be without stickers and as an x68.

pandinoyoung

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #695 on: April 23, 2025, 01:42:58 PM »
Your painter is happy producing fakes and likes the idea of prison?
If you add the stickers on top, you can sell the bike as a clone by removing them before hand. Otherwise, it's a crime in most jurisdictions, afaik. It's still cringe and illegal, but at least you can play it down because the stickers are removable.

come on don't drink too much wine

Tom77

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #696 on: April 23, 2025, 03:12:10 PM »
My confidence in tan tan is going south, 6 weeks since payment and frame not painted yet
« Last Edit: April 25, 2025, 10:05:54 AM by Tom77 »

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #697 on: April 23, 2025, 04:04:59 PM »
My confidence in tan tan ISU going south, 6 weeks since payment and frame not painted yet


You’ll get the frame eventually.
Unfortunately, I don’t think communication is Tan Tan’s strong point, judging by this thread.
They throw out 20–25 day manufacturing times (not including delivery), but 25 days for me is this Friday—and based on what I’m seeing, I’d be surprised if it’s even ready to ship.
They really should be more upfront about lead times. I think people would still buy the frame even with a longer wait, as long as expectations were clear.
I fully expect it to take longer than quoted, so it’s no big deal—but honesty would go a long way.

I appreciate it’s not what you want to hear, but it’s the truth. I think one guy waited 90 days including delivery—though that might be an extreme case, as some people have received theirs more quickly.
From what I gather, it’s the paint that causes most of the delay. I was quoted just 7–10 days for a raw frame.



glepore

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #698 on: April 23, 2025, 05:10:09 PM »
I'm the 90 day guy. I'm giving them credit for the New Year and the backlog that may have created. But I think that there is a bottleneck somewhere, either because they're outsourcing the construction of the frame or their paint shop is forever backlogged.
Realistically, I think you're looking at 45-60 days from payment to release from paint, and then shipping time (which was over 20 days to USA, but I got held up on the Asian end for customs outbound inspection).
The communication after payment and prior to shipment remained cordial but less energetic than prior to payment.

JImportante

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #699 on: April 23, 2025, 11:04:35 PM »
Feedback from Vivian just now, about my order (ordered19th march)

"The frame is finished.
Waiting for warehouse processing and packaging.
I'll take a picture for you this afternoon.
Very busy.
The warehouse has not had time to process it yet."

Light in a tunnel...  :P

Avalius

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #700 on: April 23, 2025, 11:42:04 PM »
Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless :o
"You can't be sad while riding a bicycle."

JImportante

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #701 on: April 24, 2025, 03:44:20 AM »
Below is a photo of my frame in size 58, weight 890g, chameleon white - you can see the effect in the close-up photo  :)

kvnp

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #702 on: April 24, 2025, 04:06:02 AM »
Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless :o

Did you use the special mount provided with the frame ? It looks like this :

https://www.bikegarage.cc/components/front-brake-adapter/specialized-aethos-tarmac-sl8-disc-brake-adaptor-black-flat-mount-s200700001-36

Avalius

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #703 on: April 24, 2025, 05:44:46 AM »
Did you use the special mount provided with the frame ? It looks like this :

https://www.bikegarage.cc/components/front-brake-adapter/specialized-aethos-tarmac-sl8-disc-brake-adaptor-black-flat-mount-s200700001-36

Yeah, ended up running old ultegra 11 speed calipers on ltwoo.
"You can't be sad while riding a bicycle."

Sander2177

Re: Seraph Bikes Superlight 836g X68 - Alternative to SL8 Fakes?
« Reply #704 on: April 24, 2025, 05:53:17 AM »
Anyone installed ltwoo on this frame? The front caliper doesn't fit and the ltwoo adapters don't work. I'm clueless :o

Looks great
But I wish they would not paint over the edges of the BB
Just means it have to be faced