Author Topic: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them  (Read 9597 times)

scottbro2

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2024, 12:06:36 PM »
Anyone got experience with their D272 hub?

I have the D272 hub w 36t ratchets on the CSC wheelset I purchased early this year.  See notes above.  So far at 2500 road miles I am very pleased with the D272 hub.  Its a DT350 clone - strait pull. Only 2 concerns I have had are 1. unbranded bearings - have had no premature wear so far. 2. The End Caps.  The end caps require a 11mm allen wrench to remove them rather than just pulling them off like most others. I had some difficulty locating 2 11mm allen wrenches locally to get the job done. The end caps are single labrynth seal. Having a double labrynth like the DTS caps would better seal out water ingress. 
I have not had any dirt or water ingress problems however. 
Hub internals are still clean as day 1 so I have not experienced any rathet wear either.  Hub noise is medium. (I prefer quiet freehubs) My other CSC wheels have Novatec hubs with pawl ratchets.  I would put the D272 at at least equal in terms of quality. Extra credit for the ratchet design.

kurrante

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #31 on: December 10, 2024, 02:02:45 AM »
I have the D272 hub w 36t ratchets on the CSC wheelset I purchased early this year.  See notes above.  So far at 2500 road miles I am very pleased with the D272 hub.  Its a DT350 clone - strait pull. Only 2 concerns I have had are 1. unbranded bearings - have had no premature wear so far. 2. The End Caps.  The end caps require a 11mm allen wrench to remove them rather than just pulling them off like most others. I had some difficulty locating 2 11mm allen wrenches locally to get the job done. The end caps are single labrynth seal. Having a double labrynth like the DTS caps would better seal out water ingress. 
I have not had any dirt or water ingress problems however. 
Hub internals are still clean as day 1 so I have not experienced any rathet wear either.  Hub noise is medium. (I prefer quiet freehubs) My other CSC wheels have Novatec hubs with pawl ratchets.  I would put the D272 at at least equal in terms of quality. Extra credit for the ratchet design.

Hello. Do you think that the D272 hub is compatible with an original DT Swiss body? Thanks.-

ZacItaly15

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #32 on: December 10, 2024, 05:12:06 AM »
I personally struggle to find a 11mm allen so, at the beginning, I mill a 12mm and I was able to check at least that the ratchet were adequately greased. They were.

Then, I found the 11m allen here
https://www.leroymerlin.it/prodotti/utensileria/utensili-manuali/chiavi-e-chiavi-inglesi/chiavi-a-brugola/chiave-a-brugola-esagonale-dexter-in-acciaio-cromato-11-mm-l189mm-36153915.html
Tested yesterday, it works perfectly.

I also notice the front bearings are 6802 15*24*5 with rubber sealing , no-brand cheap chinese bearing.
The endcap have a double rail and it seems can guarantee a good sealing.
The front (and rear...) axle have a 11mm recess that allows to keep the axle firm while disassembly the cap.
Axle, of course, are aluminum made.

The hub body looks like the original DT but i'm not sure is 100% compatible. The ratchet are 100% compatible as well as the springs

Do you know the size of the two axle bearings of rear wheel?

kurrante

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #33 on: December 10, 2024, 03:41:21 PM »
Tried today. DTs Ratchet LN original body fits perfectly in the D272 hub. Didn't measure the bearings, but they are ceramic 6802. My hubs didn't have the famous 11mm allen hole. The cap just pull off with my hands.

Nikim

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #34 on: December 10, 2024, 03:50:50 PM »
Does anyone have experience with the D325 hub? Does anyone know what it might be a clone of?

ZacItaly15

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #35 on: December 11, 2024, 02:22:05 AM »
thanks kurrante
This is something bizarre.
are you sure you have a real D272 or a "clone of a just cloned DTSwiss"?

Because in the DT240/350, the caps are just pressed and the body come out without any tool (just pulling).

The issue of the body is not related to the body itself but with the cap that have different sizes

kurrante

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #36 on: December 11, 2024, 03:26:20 AM »
thanks kurrante
This is something bizarre.
are you sure you have a real D272 or a "clone of a just cloned DTSwiss"?

Because in the DT240/350, the caps are just pressed and the body come out without any tool (just pulling).

The issue of the body is not related to the body itself but with the cap that have different sizes

I bougth the wheelset as CSC with D272 ceramic hub.
I send you photos, of the hub with the HG original hub, its interiors, and with ht DT one.


ZacItaly15

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #37 on: December 11, 2024, 04:57:04 AM »
I have a doubt.
My wheelset come from Spain (bought 1month ago) and maybe my hub is not the latest version (in fact, I had a big discount...)

I suppose your wheelset belong to the last edition and it may be the last update.

By the way, I have a pair of DT350 hub in my gravel bike with original DT body so I can swap the body and check if the DT body fit in my D272 hub

i'll let you know

kurrante

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #38 on: December 11, 2024, 06:19:32 AM »
My wheelset also came from Spain.
They are similar if not the same than this ones:
https://www.carbonspeedcycle.com/d27236t54t.html
It has engraved "CSC20241018-54T" in the rear centerlock ring.
Regards,

ZacItaly15

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2024, 07:04:14 AM »
do u think the ceramic upgrade worth the difference?

I'm planning to swap the original bearing with SKF/NTN (steel)

ZacItaly15

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2024, 02:40:58 AM »
I bougth the wheelset as CSC with D272 ceramic hub.
I send you photos, of the hub with the HG original hub, its interiors, and with ht DT one.

Mine, with threaded axle on both side (drive/non drive side) and threaded cap

Da11as

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2024, 03:12:02 AM »
do u think the ceramic upgrade worth the difference?

I'm planning to swap the original bearing with SKF/NTN (steel)
No

kurrante


mark335

Re: CarbonSpeedCycle CSC wheels - avoid them
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2024, 03:25:19 PM »
I am next guy here with issues with rear hub CSCT31. I got the same clicking and skipping when re-pedaling after freewheeling.
It happens around 3 times per 100 km in my case. I re-lubricate free hub but it did not help. CSC seller send me new free hub which did not help. I also got new rear hub from him but i didn't replace it yet.

I found this crap hub on aliex: https://shorturl.at/VWjDB