Xmcarbonspeed CS-R01 build

[Daviddavieboy]

What did you guys pay for this frame?

 Did you message PeterXu ? He responded to me VERY quickly.

[biceryder]

I can voucher for Peter.  I communicated with him via email.  Extremely responsive and does his best to answer questions.  I plan on purchasing another frame from him by end of year.

[Icyseanfitz]

Did you message PeterXu ? He responded to me VERY quickly.

i believe it was somewhere in the 700-800usd mark with custom paint/shipping etc, peter is great to deal with, i will definitely look to buy another frame if/when they release something new

[ritzelrowdy]

Hi, do 32mm tires fit well, or is there room for wider tires?

[Daviddavieboy]

My tires measure 34 mm and have a couple mm on each side still. They are 32mm gp5000!AS TR ON 24 mm internal rims.

[rodribanez]

bought the majority of the remainder of the parts needed in the aliexpress 11/11 sale, Only thing really left to get is tyres and bartape 

Groupset: WHEELTOP EDS-TX https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006971691534.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.37.21bd1802fPmDzT
Cassette: ZTTO 12 speed ultralight 12-34 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007610723152.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.15.21bd1802fPmDzT
Crankset: RIRO Carbon Fiber 170 50/34 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006481196419.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.31.21bd1802fPmDzT
Chain: YBN SLA1210TIB Black https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005504952160.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.20.21bd1802fPmDzT
Pedals: TIM 12 LOGO 165g https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003642232349.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.26.21bd1802fPmDzT
Saddle: RYET 3D 135 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006249187930.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.59.21bd1802fPmDzT
Tubes: Ridenow Ultralight 19g https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005742091890.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.42.21bd1802fPmDzT

Hi.
How do these pedals work compared to Shimano Ultegra pedals? Are they quicker to get off the pedals compared to previous Shimano pedals? I notice they're considerably lighter, and I need to replace mine. Thanks.

[Daviddavieboy]

What's your FTP, age and weight? I feel like playing the Nero show game looking at your bike

lol I have NO idea what you are talking about. Anyway 285, 55, 110

[Daviddavieboy]

Thanks! 110... kg or pounds?

KGs. I am a truck driver and built like such lol

[Icyseanfitz]

Hi.
How do these pedals work compared to Shimano Ultegra pedals? Are they quicker to get off the pedals compared to previous Shimano pedals? I notice they're considerably lighter, and I need to replace mine. Thanks.

They are light, that's about all I can say about them, I find them very difficult to clip in fully, just waiting to get a set of Favero Assioma UNO and I'll replace them

[mark335]

Tangentially relevant:
CS-R06 road frameset M size in UD black gloss & D50CU-33 T1100 rims 21/21H UD paintless. A friend just finished his build.
He had no specific problems during the build (was his first build).
I didnt buy the cockpit from Peter because i wanted 36cm. The interface is universal, so anything that's standard will work.
7.4kg with pedals, bottle cages & everything, and the pedals are the most basic i could find, and the bottle cages are aluminum, so it's probably a 7.2kg bike without cutting corners (extra long compression plug for safety, 30C tyres, wide rims, 52/36, 11-34, 160 front and rear rotors, ER9 with old generation calipers that are heavy AF. So, easily a 7kg bike with a few mods.
He doesnt have much to say about ride quality yet, he just finished building it.

@Serge_K, waiting for feedback about ride impressions on that frame, please 

[Serge_K]

@Serge_K, waiting for feedback about ride impressions on that frame, please 

All 3 friends are now riding their bikes. All 3 are beginners as road bike users, big picture. 1 is a pro athlete, but not in bikes. 1 is an aero space engineer. 1 is an oil & gas engineer. they all managed to build the frame fine. They all seem happy.
I got them kick ass bikes and the result seems to be a non event, really, maybe it's a good thing 1 is super happy that the bike is full custom. the other 2 are just riding the bike tinkering with their position (the engineers, go figure).
so... yeah, unsure how helpful all that can be
They're all on conti gp5000 30C, 33 wide, 50 deep wheels from peter, and the R06 from Peter. Then the components and specs differ between bikes.

Also, having put 11,000km on my own chinese frame, ultimately, it's just a bike. If you buy something that fits you, that fits the riding you do, unless you're a pretty serious statistical anomaly, if you get the frame from a reputable seller (that's a big if), then you should be fine. From the dozen builds i've done, that's probably the main takeaway. I have a world champion friend on a trek emonda, it's just the wrong bike to ride on the flat with us, as we're all on aero bikes. That's not kool aid, that's physics. And a 400$ frame will get you there just as well as a 2000 one, afaik, if you choose wisely.

My current conclusion about all this is as follows: a branded bike off the shelf will cost you more and fit you less well than a custom OEM bike, IF you know what to order. My friend on the trek is on the wrong bike. One on a van rysel is on the wrong bars (and shitty gearing, and hookless zipp rims). one on an aeroad is on the wrong gearing. And changing anything on branded bikes instantly costs a fortune, when it really shouldnt.

[Michael N]

Hi


 Is there anyone who can tell the difference between R01 and R06 there is not a big difference in the geometry, so why should you choose one over the other


BR

Michael

[Bonpensiero]

Is there anyone who can tell the difference between R01 and R06 there is not a big difference in the geometry, so why should you choose one over the other

The R01 headtube and fork are different. Designed fitting with each other. The CS-R06 fork is common and might fit with other standard rounded headtube frames. Go for the R01!

[Michael N]

The R01 headtube and fork are different. Designed fitting with each other. The CS-R06 fork is common and might fit with other standard rounded headtube frames. Go for the R01!

Nice to know, thank you for your feedback.

[mark335]

All 3 friends are now riding their bikes. All 3 are beginners as road bike users, big picture. 1 is a pro athlete, but not in bikes. 1 is an aero space engineer. 1 is an oil & gas engineer. they all managed to build the frame fine. They all seem happy.
I got them kick ass bikes and the result seems to be a non event, really, maybe it's a good thing 1 is super happy that the bike is full custom. the other 2 are just riding the bike tinkering with their position (the engineers, go figure).
so... yeah, unsure how helpful all that can be
They're all on conti gp5000 30C, 33 wide, 50 deep wheels from peter, and the R06 from Peter. Then the components and specs differ between bikes.

Also, having put 11,000km on my own chinese frame, ultimately, it's just a bike. If you buy something that fits you, that fits the riding you do, unless you're a pretty serious statistical anomaly, if you get the frame from a reputable seller (that's a big if), then you should be fine. From the dozen builds i've done, that's probably the main takeaway. I have a world champion friend on a trek emonda, it's just the wrong bike to ride on the flat with us, as we're all on aero bikes. That's not kool aid, that's physics. And a 400$ frame will get you there just as well as a 2000 one, afaik, if you choose wisely.

My current conclusion about all this is as follows: a branded bike off the shelf will cost you more and fit you less well than a custom OEM bike, IF you know what to order. My friend on the trek is on the wrong bike. One on a van rysel is on the wrong bars (and shitty gearing, and hookless zipp rims). one on an aeroad is on the wrong gearing. And changing anything on branded bikes instantly costs a fortune, when it really shouldnt.

I didn't expect that long lecture on Chinese frames 
As your friends are beginners, I understand that they have no comparison to other road frames in terms of handling, stiffness, comfort etc.
I know for and against Chinese frames, currently riding on my first build - BXT 145, but I got issues with creaking BB and creak near setpost area, that is why I am looking for something new. I am interested in Cannondale Supersix looking frame, I was even supposed to vote for TanTan x69, but after fork failure in X68. I resigned and moved to CS-R06 about which Your review is first one on forum. If you could deliver a few photos of ready builds, I would be pleased to.

P.S.
It is hard for me to believe and agree with you that guy on emonda is dropped back due to frame aerodynamic