Xmcarbonspeed CS-R01 build

[mark335]

Tangentially relevant:
CS-R06 road frameset M size in UD black gloss & D50CU-33 T1100 rims 21/21H UD paintless. A friend just finished his build.
He had no specific problems during the build (was his first build).
I didnt buy the cockpit from Peter because i wanted 36cm. The interface is universal, so anything that's standard will work.
7.4kg with pedals, bottle cages & everything, and the pedals are the most basic i could find, and the bottle cages are aluminum, so it's probably a 7.2kg bike without cutting corners (extra long compression plug for safety, 30C tyres, wide rims, 52/36, 11-34, 160 front and rear rotors, ER9 with old generation calipers that are heavy AF. So, easily a 7kg bike with a few mods.
He doesnt have much to say about ride quality yet, he just finished building it.

@Serge_K, waiting for feedback about ride impressions on that frame, please 

[Serge_K]

@Serge_K, waiting for feedback about ride impressions on that frame, please 

All 3 friends are now riding their bikes. All 3 are beginners as road bike users, big picture. 1 is a pro athlete, but not in bikes. 1 is an aero space engineer. 1 is an oil & gas engineer. they all managed to build the frame fine. They all seem happy.
I got them kick ass bikes and the result seems to be a non event, really, maybe it's a good thing 1 is super happy that the bike is full custom. the other 2 are just riding the bike tinkering with their position (the engineers, go figure).
so... yeah, unsure how helpful all that can be
They're all on conti gp5000 30C, 33 wide, 50 deep wheels from peter, and the R06 from Peter. Then the components and specs differ between bikes.

Also, having put 11,000km on my own chinese frame, ultimately, it's just a bike. If you buy something that fits you, that fits the riding you do, unless you're a pretty serious statistical anomaly, if you get the frame from a reputable seller (that's a big if), then you should be fine. From the dozen builds i've done, that's probably the main takeaway. I have a world champion friend on a trek emonda, it's just the wrong bike to ride on the flat with us, as we're all on aero bikes. That's not kool aid, that's physics. And a 400$ frame will get you there just as well as a 2000 one, afaik, if you choose wisely.

My current conclusion about all this is as follows: a branded bike off the shelf will cost you more and fit you less well than a custom OEM bike, IF you know what to order. My friend on the trek is on the wrong bike. One on a van rysel is on the wrong bars (and shitty gearing, and hookless zipp rims). one on an aeroad is on the wrong gearing. And changing anything on branded bikes instantly costs a fortune, when it really shouldnt.

[Michael N]

Hi


 Is there anyone who can tell the difference between R01 and R06 there is not a big difference in the geometry, so why should you choose one over the other


BR

Michael

[Bonpensiero]

Is there anyone who can tell the difference between R01 and R06 there is not a big difference in the geometry, so why should you choose one over the other

The R01 headtube and fork are different. Designed fitting with each other. The CS-R06 fork is common and might fit with other standard rounded headtube frames. Go for the R01!

[Michael N]

The R01 headtube and fork are different. Designed fitting with each other. The CS-R06 fork is common and might fit with other standard rounded headtube frames. Go for the R01!

Nice to know, thank you for your feedback.

[mark335]

All 3 friends are now riding their bikes. All 3 are beginners as road bike users, big picture. 1 is a pro athlete, but not in bikes. 1 is an aero space engineer. 1 is an oil & gas engineer. they all managed to build the frame fine. They all seem happy.
I got them kick ass bikes and the result seems to be a non event, really, maybe it's a good thing 1 is super happy that the bike is full custom. the other 2 are just riding the bike tinkering with their position (the engineers, go figure).
so... yeah, unsure how helpful all that can be
They're all on conti gp5000 30C, 33 wide, 50 deep wheels from peter, and the R06 from Peter. Then the components and specs differ between bikes.

Also, having put 11,000km on my own chinese frame, ultimately, it's just a bike. If you buy something that fits you, that fits the riding you do, unless you're a pretty serious statistical anomaly, if you get the frame from a reputable seller (that's a big if), then you should be fine. From the dozen builds i've done, that's probably the main takeaway. I have a world champion friend on a trek emonda, it's just the wrong bike to ride on the flat with us, as we're all on aero bikes. That's not kool aid, that's physics. And a 400$ frame will get you there just as well as a 2000 one, afaik, if you choose wisely.

My current conclusion about all this is as follows: a branded bike off the shelf will cost you more and fit you less well than a custom OEM bike, IF you know what to order. My friend on the trek is on the wrong bike. One on a van rysel is on the wrong bars (and shitty gearing, and hookless zipp rims). one on an aeroad is on the wrong gearing. And changing anything on branded bikes instantly costs a fortune, when it really shouldnt.

I didn't expect that long lecture on Chinese frames 
As your friends are beginners, I understand that they have no comparison to other road frames in terms of handling, stiffness, comfort etc.
I know for and against Chinese frames, currently riding on my first build - BXT 145, but I got issues with creaking BB and creak near setpost area, that is why I am looking for something new. I am interested in Cannondale Supersix looking frame, I was even supposed to vote for TanTan x69, but after fork failure in X68. I resigned and moved to CS-R06 about which Your review is first one on forum. If you could deliver a few photos of ready builds, I would be pleased to.

P.S.
It is hard for me to believe and agree with you that guy on emonda is dropped back due to frame aerodynamic

[Serge_K]

If you could deliver a few photos of ready builds, I would be pleased to.

P.S.
It is hard for me to believe and agree with you that guy on emonda is dropped back due to frame aerodynamic

I wrote the wrong bike, not the wrong frame. He's on bad tyres (french sponsor), butyl tyres, large bars, wheels that aren't deep enough, and yes, a slow frame, that's not made for the flat, which means he loves his position out of the saddle climbing, but he's not comfortable in tuck, and so he catches more wind than he should.
And so, ride for 90min at 40kmh on the flat, add all of these "marginal" things together all at once, and it hurts. Idk how slow that frame tested on the tour magazine, but it can't have tested well.

That said, maybe i'm lying. Maybe i dont exist. Maybe i'm a russian bot. Maybe i'm a trad wife. Maybe sometimes i wish i were a trad wife.

[patliean1]

Those photos are voided unless you also provide both your Strava and FTP