Any thoughts on the 145% Chinese tariff on purchases?

[Ludo]

the Supreme Court lean heavily on Republican side so who knows what their position will be

[Tijoe]

I plan to sit and watch things unfold.  I pre-purchased a lot of items before this worthless tariff Sh*t-show started.  Now I have my popcorn and will sit back and watch what happens, ride my bikes, enjoy the summer, and purchase as few consumer items, as possible, until everything settles down.   (Could be months, could be years.)

[Ludo]

Same here, working on next frame paint scheme and that’s about it.

[jonathanf2]

At this point the only thing I need from AliExpress are small replaceable components which haven't been heavily affected by tariff price increases. Though it sucks losing access or just priced out of some of the higher end stuff like frames/wheels/groupsets. At this point, I'll just enjoy riding with what I have!

[JG4700]

I ordered a few more parts in separate orders like a full XT groupset and carbon saddle and still have yet to be hit with any tariff charges or extra fees.

[GSoroos]

AliExpress has a little notice on tariffs on the home page of the app. It explains that the final cost you pay should take care of everything (tariffs being paid up front).
 I can verify that my couple orders in the past month have not had any additional charges after final payment.

[jonathanf2]

AliExpress has a little notice on tariffs on the home page of the app. It explains that the final cost you pay should take care of everything (tariffs being paid up front).
 I can verify that my couple orders in the past month have not had any additional charges after final payment.

But, but CHYNNA was supposed to pay the tariffs, y'all! 

[00Garza]

Put in my first order since the whole tariff debacle. All choice items. Not the screaming savings it used to be, but still cheaper than amazon or ebay.

[Stubbie Blue]

Yep I've been ordering some things from AliExpress again:

- 5/20 $17 for 5 Choice items shipped through 1ST. Received 6/5. Tariffs already included in price.

- 6/4 GP5000 tires from Lordgun in Italy. Received 6/9 by UPS, no tariffs or fees. $800 de minimis exemption still applies but make sure you don't inadvertently order anything made in China because then it won't apply and UPS will probably hit you with tariffs and customs brokerage fees.

- 6/4 $547 after coupon for EliteWheels Edge. But after the sale, they messaged me and asked me to pay an extra $22 for "U.S. tax-paid shipping reimbursement" so I just paid it. I have a FedEx Home/Ground tracking number from California but it hasn't been picked up yet so I assume they are getting into the US through their own means.

- 6/4 Magene PES P515 power meter. Should arrive on 6/13 by DHL. Hopefully they won't charge me any tariffs or customs brokerage fees since everything on AliExpress is supposed to be shipped Delivery Duty Paid.

From what I gather, the current tariffs on China are 54% or $100 (carrier sets which one for all their packages) but this is for postal services only. Non-postal services are 30%. I'm not sure which rate services like 1ST, UniUni or Cainiao pay. Are they consolidating packages and sending them to a sorting center in the US so they can just pay $100 for a containerful of packages? Are they classified as non-postal services so they are paying 30% in tariffs which is still better than the 125-145% tariffs before?

[coffeebreak]

I'm not sure which rate services like 1ST, UniUni or Cainiao pay. Are they consolidating packages and sending them to a sorting center in the US so they can just pay $100 for a containerful of packages? Are they classified as non-postal services so they are paying 30% in tariffs which is still better than the 125-145% tariffs before?

I am willing to bet not even the administration knows.

[amacal1]

- 6/4 GP5000 tires from Lordgun in Italy. Received 6/9 by UPS, no tariffs or fees. $800 de minimis exemption still applies but make sure you don't inadvertently order anything made in China because then it won't apply and UPS will probably hit you with tariffs and customs brokerage fees.

How much did those GP5000s set you back after all taxes, shipping, etc?

[Stubbie Blue]

How much did those GP5000s set you back after all taxes, shipping, etc?

$41.92 each x 2 + $14.60 shipping = $98.44

[Tijoe]

My last Aliexpress order was April 13th.   This morning, I looked up the current prices for the last 40 items I purchased.   In general, the items I purchased have increased in price between 22% and 35%. (Around 30% average increase.)  I have a few items where the price is 2X+ what I paid a few months ago, and a couple of choice items stayed the same price.   

It appears to me that we are paying the full Tariff-de-jour, at a 30% average cost increase, it appears that someone is eating 10% to 15% of the total cost increases to get direct-to-consumer items through customs to US consumers.

I read a trade article this morning that indicates that the first round of consumer goods price increases (8% to 15%) are starting to hit the USA.  There is about 3 months of inventory left from the "pre-tariff-inventory-buildup", and that importers are ordering about 30% less variety of items (by sku number)  so by August, the diversity of items we are used to will become restricted.  Empty cargo containers are stacking up on the west coast ports, and container receipts are still down about 38%.  Overall shipping to US is down about 8% due to alternate sourcing from other countries besides China.

[jonathanf2]

Well there's been one positive aspect from the tariff price increase. I now have several bike restoration projects in process. First, I'm almost finished repainting and rebuilding my old carbon cx/gravel frameset. I also have an older 26er MTB monster gravel bike conversion I'm repainting and converting into a rigid setup. That frame I'm building for my daughter. Lastly I have another alloy gravel frame I might just gift to a family member once I'm done with restoring that frame.

Unlike some of these YT restoration builders, I have no affinity to older or legacy brand components. I have no problem mixing-n-matching lightweight and affordable AliEx parts into the builds. Plus rattle can paint is cheap!

[AzureEssence]

My last Aliexpress order was April 13th.   This morning, I looked up the current prices for the last 40 items I purchased.   In general, the items I purchased have increased in price between 22% and 35%. (Around 30% average increase.)  I have a few items where the price is 2X+ what I paid a few months ago, and a couple of choice items stayed the same price.   

It appears to me that we are paying the full Tariff-de-jour, at a 30% average cost increase, it appears that someone is eating 10% to 15% of the total cost increases to get direct-to-consumer items through customs to US consumers.

I read a trade article this morning that indicates that the first round of consumer goods price increases (8% to 15%) are starting to hit the USA.  There is about 3 months of inventory left from the "pre-tariff-inventory-buildup", and that importers are ordering about 30% less variety of items (by sku number)  so by August, the diversity of items we are used to will become restricted.  Empty cargo containers are stacking up on the west coast ports, and container receipts are still down about 38%.  Overall shipping to US is down about 8% due to alternate sourcing from other countries besides China.

This whole situation is a crock of shite and won't bring US manufacturing back here. All it will do is increase costs for consumers  and line the government's pocket.

Only positive outcome I see here is maybe I can buy a shipping container for cheap and store my massive stash of Chinese bike parts in it, rofl