after quite a bit of searching im going to get the carbonda 505sl. Looks very similar geometry to a roubaix. might add a redshock stem if i want some more comfort but hopefully with 32mm road tyres that should be good enough.
Good choice. Also the 1136 would be a fitting option.
Both are nice. Whereas the 505SL gives you the option for real Gravel tyres, the 1136 is clearly staying in the side of a road bike.
What is the current price for the 505SL frame?