Winspace C5 Aero

[shan]

Check out this upcoming release:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DE4eHyHqxmN/

Curious qn: Does Winspace make their own proprietary designs/frames or this is from some other factory custom painted and rebranded?

[Pkd17]

I wonder "how aero" this will be compared to their T1550, which was supposed to be their aerobike. At least the fork looks deeper than the T1550 fork.

[Lotnik]

Winspace has their own molds.

[toxin]

They started out reselling, but now they have enough cash to have their own.

Could be their most aero bike because they insist on that awful downtube shape on t1500, need to see the whole thing.

[Pkd17]

https://www.winspace.cc/product/c5-aero

Not sure why they call it "allround/endurance"!? A bit slacker steering angle, but same reach and even lower (!) stack than the T1550 2nd generation.

Edit: the steering angle is really slack and a lot of trail at the fork/front end. I think this steers like a truck unfortunately....

[raisinberry777]

https://www.winspace.cc/product/c5-aero

Not sure why they call it "allround/endurance"!? A bit slacker steering angle, but same reach and even lower (!) stack than the T1550 2nd generation.

Edit: the steering angle is really slack and a lot of trail at the fork/front end. I think this steers like a truck unfortunately....

Just judging by the medium, it's not that wild of a geometry. Comparing to my (small - but Merida sizes run large) Merida Scultura, it's a similar reach and stack, seat tube angle is the same and head tube angle is only .4 degrees smaller.

Definitely not endurance geometry though.

[RoadieMKD]

This actually has the perfect geometry for the general population looking for aero frames. For me (with herniated lumbar disk) it will allow to be assembled with no spacers under the stem other than the necessary for size M, I would not have to go a size down to compensate for reach and give me 9 cm saddle to bar drop. Regarding the "slack" headtube, it will by no means steer like a truck. My Hygge (size S, downsized to compensate for reach) has 71 headtube and it is very precise, rails corners and is very stable at speed and the occasional wind gusts yet remains responsive. I do not like a twitchy frame, and this will definitely be not one. With the price being lower than T1550 Gen 2 and not that much heavier, this is a sweet spot for aero high end Chinese frames, if I can say so. It will be a great purchase for Black Friday this November if it gets discounted or bundled with wheelset.

[RDY]

Odd lack of stack for something they're calling endurance ... but that can be remedied with spacers / stem angle / riser bars.

Definitely good that more brands are finally getting the message about slacker head angle in larger sizes.  But ... they're still slackening the seat angle in larger sizes, and the FC / WB are still pretty short so the slacker head angle will have limited positive effect.

A little better, but not much better.

[patliean1]

For anyone trying to sustain a 90-degree elbow “breakaway TT” position over the hoods, you need more stack. This kind of solves that.

Peak Torque speaks on this a lot. Sure you can always use more spacers, but allegedly this will decrease overall stiffness in the front end. Versus running a slammed stem.

The issue is exacerbated with the advent of shorter cranks. Typically you'd need to increase both saddle height and stack height to accommodate the smaller crank diameter and open up the hip angle. So what is originally intended to be an endurance geometry with, say, 172.5mm crank arms quickly becomes an aero geometry with 165mm cranks.

[Macedingle]

The stack is the same at my XL (550) size T1550, but the reach is a bit less. I think this is probably the frame geometry most of us would actually enjoy.

[HanzJWermhat]

Looks like a great bike. Honestly think it will sell better than the t1550. To me it’s more attractive as it’s more aero, and a couple hundred cheaper. But ride could be rough. If it’s more refined than the 1550 than it’s really attractive.

[toxin]

Not all of us need more stack to maintan aero positions. Most modern bikes are way too relaxed for me.