Author Topic: 9velo GV35 GV45  (Read 1526 times)

trailgazer

9velo GV35 GV45
« on: March 27, 2025, 05:43:28 AM »
A lot of people in this forum (and others) love the GV45 wheelset from 9velo. Nobody is talking about their 35 mm deep counterpart, the GV35 rims. Is there really nobody who has experience with them? Why did you go for 35 mm deep wheels instead of 45 mm wheels?

My Cannondale CAAD12 racer has 45 mm (F) and 55 mm (R) FFWD rims. My body weight is 69 kg. I had accidents and multiple dangerous situations concerning sudden cross winds. Hence I'm a little scared of 40+ mm deep rims.

The wheels I'm looking for will end up in a Carbonda CFR-505 SL all road frame which will see forest roads of all kinds. Chances of sudden wind gusts are maybe less frequent but still...

What reason(s) made you decide to go for 35 or 45 wheels?
« Last Edit: March 27, 2025, 05:48:42 AM by trailgazer »



Nkearb

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2025, 12:37:53 PM »
35mm would just be slightly lighter. Usually 40-55mm deep wheels have such a small weight penalty over ~30mm that its a no brainer to get the deeper wheels. Crosswind stability for wheels below 55mm deep is not much of a concern. Id don't think 9velo is a good value. I avoid many of these premium Chinese brands that are trying to compete with western brands. Price is double that of an OEM, and the product and support/warranty is the same, sometimes worse.

trailgazer

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2025, 03:37:09 AM »
35mm would just be slightly lighter. Usually 40-55mm deep wheels have such a small weight penalty over ~30mm that its a no brainer to get the deeper wheels. Crosswind stability for wheels below 55mm deep is not much of a concern. Id don't think 9velo is a good value. I avoid many of these premium Chinese brands that are trying to compete with western brands. Price is double that of an OEM, and the product and support/warranty is the same, sometimes worse.
I'm open for other suggestions. I thought 9velo was OEM? What wheels are you running and why?

Bigbobby1482

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2025, 04:15:21 AM »
35mm would just be slightly lighter. Usually 40-55mm deep wheels have such a small weight penalty over ~30mm that its a no brainer to get the deeper wheels. Crosswind stability for wheels below 55mm deep is not much of a concern. Id don't think 9velo is a good value. I avoid many of these premium Chinese brands that are trying to compete with western brands. Price is double that of an OEM, and the product and support/warranty is the same, sometimes worse.

Calling it the same product is probably quite a stretch.
If you are buying from 9velo you are paying "premium" for the Hub. They use hubs from H-works which are really high quality. I haven't seen an OEM for a good price using true h-works hub yet?
For reference I've been using 9velo's mt30 MTB wheel for over a year, and they are perfect, best hub's I've ever used by far. Much better than  DT swiss.
Also there are 10% off 9velo with youtubers discount codes. ex. 9velo-hambini10
So 872 usd including shipping for the 9velo isn't that bad

And for OP, I don't know how old your FFWD rims are, but modern rims has a more U shaped profile, where older ones has a V shape. The U shape is a lot better handling in cross-winds.

Serge_K

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2025, 05:32:25 AM »
A lot of people in this forum (and others) love the GV45 wheelset from 9velo.

They do? I'm not saying people here hate these wheels, but i rarely see the brand mentioned, and when it is mentioned, people usually chime in to say it's nothing to write home about, as pointed out by Nkearb.
If you spend 15 minutes on this forum looking at threads in chronological order, you will see the same OEM names popping up over and over again. The last dozen wheels i've bought, i bought from Peter from Xiamen carbon speed, because value is there, specs are there, quality is there, and service is there. And i dont want logos. Peter is easy to deal with and transparent. Basically ticks all my boxes. You will find a lot of people here who prefer buying from Aliexpress though because they dont want to deal with emails and whatsapp conversations. In which case, Elite is probably the leader of aliX wheels.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

RDY

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2025, 05:57:54 AM »
Calling it the same product is probably quite a stretch.
If you are buying from 9velo you are paying "premium" for the Hub. They use hubs from H-works which are really high quality. I haven't seen an OEM for a good price using true h-works hub yet?
For reference I've been using 9velo's mt30 MTB wheel for over a year, and they are perfect, best hub's I've ever used by far. Much better than  DT swiss.
Also there are 10% off 9velo with youtubers discount codes. ex. 9velo-hambini10
So 872 usd including shipping for the 9velo isn't that bad

And for OP, I don't know how old your FFWD rims are, but modern rims has a more U shaped profile, where older ones has a V shape. The U shape is a lot better handling in cross-winds.

It's all farsports with different branding and a 30-40% upcharge in price.  You can buy exactly the same stuff from FS as 9Velo.  9Velo use stuff straight out of FS catalogue - no private molds or special hubs.

sukerbole1

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2025, 06:06:27 AM »
I've got the GV45 2.0 ones and really like them. IVe only borrowed a set ones with DT hubs and these are nicer. I don't see a reason to 35 though. I live in very flat and windy place, and 45 is fine. The without difference is really minimal, especially considering their usage.

I think the reason 9velo doesn't come up here often is because you can probably get cheaper wheels, with the same quality. I found the price of mine (with a 15% code) good enough to just get them.

trailgazer

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2025, 08:09:42 AM »

SillyMochi

Re: 9velo GV35 GV45
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2025, 05:50:05 AM »
It's all farsports with different branding and a 30-40% upcharge in price.  You can buy exactly the same stuff from FS as 9Velo.  9Velo use stuff straight out of FS catalogue - no private molds or special hubs.

Just stumbled across this thread, and some of the comments don't sit well with me. Especially this one I quoted. I really don't think they are the same or even similar. To my understanding 9velo is a genuin manufacturer. As Bigbobby mentioned especially their hubs are top notch! I am riding their road bike LV2.0 version since a year now: https://www.9velo.com/products/9velo-2024-road-disc-lv-20-series?VariantsId=11110

It's a really good wheelset, even more so for the price. Like it was mentioned before, there a some 10% code (I would use 9VeloPK10 as I think Peak Torque deserves it more, see below) which brings it down to 880 USD incl. shipping and taxes (at least for Germany). They even got rid of the shipping costs now. Last year it was still 49USD, so effectively they got even more affordable. Sometimes you can even find a 15% discount on a sales like black Friday from 9velo directly (check their instagram if a sale is currently active).

I did quite some research last year before I decided to order a set as my "race day wheels" - using some cheap Elitewheels for everyday training, and yeah you can tell they are cheaper. So yes, they cost more than some of the more value options you can find but you are actually getting more here as well - in contrast to some other "brands" that really don't add any value (e.g. Hunt - worst wheels I had so far).
Attached are a few pictures, showing that I indeed own and ride these wheels  :D

But don't believe a random guy on the internet. I am certainly no engineer, just an avid bike user. That's why you might wanna look into these videos for more details:

TraceVelo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5p4YJTJCm8Hambini
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDNm7vFNxjEPeak Torque
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kP03pELRbs
TraceVelo is certainly not an engineer either but might give you good perspective of a "normal bike guy" like myself. Not sure if I would call Hambini an engineer either (he does know a bit of stuff though) but Peak Torque definitely is. He also goes quite a bit into the hub's design and why he thinks it's that good. If you check out his other videos on engineering design you can tell he knows his stuff. Hambini and PT also claim they met the woman behind the 9velo brand on a fair last year and mentioned she does know what she is doing. I believe them, especially PT as he is known to call out bullshit brands if he encounters them. So, no I don't think 9velo is just some rebranding of off-the-shelves wheels you can get anywhere. I think they are genuine and worth the price. Actually, I am quite surprised they haven't become more expensive yet. Probably because they are quite niche still.

So having said that, even IF they would just copy their stuff from farsports, I am not sure where you are buying your FS wheels? Looking at their official website their prices are WAY above what 9velo is charging - even their cheapest one is above 1000 USD, so I really don't understand the above comment from RDY:
https://www.farsports.com/collections/farsports-road-wheels

I think the wheels are definitely worth their money if you are in the market for a premium wheelset. But I think some of the other comments above are true as well: you might be totally okay with a more value-oriented wheelset from xmcarbonspeed or similar for around 500 USD.

Regarding your other question about wheel depth: I really don't see any reason to go for the shallow one. I actually ordered the GV45 for an upcoming gravel build because I liked my LVs so much.
Slow on the climb. And everywhere else.