A bike with a rider on it will always go faster than one that's in the shed with no wheels.
Frame aerodynamics do matter, and it does matter if you go fast, like group rides at 40kmh on the flat. I can tell you that the wrong rig will cost you, and it's noticeable. Will a slow frame + tight clothing be faster than a fast one with loose clothing? Yes ofc, but that's not really the point.
From experience, the sum of marginal gains is everything but marginal. If you go fast.
Congratulations if you’ve found a bike that feels faster to you, we all love that feeling. And, I don’t mean to troll but I believe that your comments should be tempered with some empiricism.
How does one know what is an aerodynamic bike (by which we mean an aerodynamically efficient bike)?
It is proven that we can’t necessarily see aerodynamics. Many shapes which are proven aerodynamically efficient don’t look it and vice versa.
Aerodynamic testing of bikes has improved, but still provides only approximations of real world aerodynamics. Aerodynamic claims and advertising are generally general w/o reference to the key operating conditions of the claim. I have yet to see bicycling related aero claims based on, or promising, results on the full frame and/or rider size range.
Marketing often touts the benefits of deep profiles w/o considering that the leading edge is most critical and should be parabolic. Rim/tire profiles are hysterical: they represent only one small portion of the 360 degrees of the wheel presented to the wind.
Cross winds and controlling stall characteristics are critical to: 1) ensuring stability regardless of effective wind direction; 2) tend to guarantee shorter profiles which are less efficient than longer profiles.
Riding 40kph in a pack doesn’t depend so much on bike aero as it does pack aero. That’s why people ride in packs.
So it’s problematic for a rider w/o wind tunnel access to evaluate what is the most aero bike for themself. And accordingly, it’s usually a fools errand for an individual to try to select a new bike based on supposed aero efficiency.
Aero is great, but hard to find,