Shimano di2 groupsets from aliexpress

[BeR]

Their site's shipping policy page seems to imply they don't do prepaid taxes, what gives?

I asked them before ordering my first groupset and they said that it was prepaid taxes for my country (in Europe).

And it was the case for both orders.

[sh]

As for the questions of warranty. I made another post on here. TLDR your only recourse is whatever buyer protection Aliexpress has.

I had a motor dead on my RD within a week and they gave me the run around, visit bike shop for quote, do that 3 more times, check about mailing it to China… ended up taking the pity refund aliexpress gave me for avoiding returning the entire groupset which just about covered a new one

Seller was yiwu donglue

[sgm_look]

Looping back, I received my order to the US without paying additional tariffs, so the higher shipping cost was to cover prepaid taxes, as someone already mentioned. I got the newly released Shimano RC503 shoes for quite a bit cheaper than US MSRP. Re: Shimano warranty discussion , maybe it's best to only buy wear items like shoes or non-electronic parts like cassettes.

[Willos]

Any vendor for SRAM? De we see comparable price difference?

[new2CT]

Hi guys - full disclosue Im new to the forum, and reading this particular thread with interest - as I'm potentially taking first step in ordering shimano groupset/components from AliX....  So hoping to get answer to a couple queries...

1.  Is it confirmed that sellers like Anrancee and Yiwu Donglue do supply 100% GENUINE Shimano components - or are posts saying components work fine and connect up via etube app only suggesting they 'appear' to be genuine?  Just I think Ive seen other post/chat somewhere saying that some of the fake copies/clones of components are so good that they've even got then linking up to etube app - though not sure if that was just scaremongering to deter people from buying shimano (and other branded components) off AliX etc.

2.  For anyone who's purchased full of mini groupset components delivered to UK (from Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue or a.n.other trusted seller) - what import tax was applied if any - as this thread seems to suggest its very hit and miss as to what import tax if any is applied.  The discounts on shimano groupsets from reputable UK online retailers is very good already with most site offering 40-50% off RRP - so the AliX prices arent much cheaper, esp with the unknown additional import tax if that is nlikely to be added??  But the issue with the groupset deals is that they come as 'packages' - so it isnt easy or no option to customise the individual components, eg different crankset/chainring sizes, with/without rotors,chain, cassette etc.  So this is where AliX would be good option as seems like I would be able to pick and chose specific spec of components for groupset build.

Anyway if anyone can shed light on the above it would be v helpful..... cheers

[toxin]

nobody is faking groupset parts, that's waaaaay too difficult, just not possible. Especially not so well they work with official shimano software.

[new2CT]

nobody is faking groupset parts, that's waaaaay too difficult, just not possible. Especially not so well they work with official shimano software.

cant find the post re fake components connecting to etube - but def think others have commented on the existence of fake groupset components in cirrculation on AliX - eg from this well known vlogger here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZV7R44W5s

and that youtube is few years old now!..  Hence why I was asking for reputable/trusted sellers of genuine shimano parts.  If Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue are known as trusted then happy not to take a risk on others...

[Merry]

Hi guys - full disclosue Im new to the forum, and reading this particular thread with interest - as I'm potentially taking first step in ordering shimano groupset/components from AliX....  So hoping to get answer to a couple queries...

1.  Is it confirmed that sellers like Anrancee and Yiwu Donglue do supply 100% GENUINE Shimano components - or are posts saying components work fine and connect up via etube app only suggesting they 'appear' to be genuine?  Just I think Ive seen other post/chat somewhere saying that some of the fake copies/clones of components are so good that they've even got then linking up to etube app - though not sure if that was just scaremongering to deter people from buying shimano (and other branded components) off AliX etc.

2.  For anyone who's purchased full of mini groupset components delivered to UK (from Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue or a.n.other trusted seller) - what import tax was applied if any - as this thread seems to suggest its very hit and miss as to what import tax if any is applied.  The discounts on shimano groupsets from reputable UK online retailers is very good already with most site offering 40-50% off RRP - so the AliX prices arent much cheaper, esp with the unknown additional import tax if that is nlikely to be added??  But the issue with the groupset deals is that they come as 'packages' - so it isnt easy or no option to customise the individual components, eg different crankset/chainring sizes, with/without rotors,chain, cassette etc.  So this is where AliX would be good option as seems like I would be able to pick and chose specific spec of components for groupset build.

Anyway if anyone can shed light on the above it would be v helpful..... cheers

I'll tell you for damn sure that if a Chinese brand can recreate Shimano 105 DI2 and above quality, they'd have their own brands.

Oh wait... LT-WOO.

[toxin]

cant find the post re fake components connecting to etube - but def think others have commented on the existence of fake groupset components in cirrculation on AliX - eg from this well known vlogger here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZV7R44W5s

and that youtube is few years old now!..  Hence why I was asking for reputable/trusted sellers of genuine shimano parts.  If Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue are known as trusted then happy not to take a risk on others...

Yeah DurianRider is definitely a trusted source for sure. Not a lying, misogynistic piece of shit for sure.

The only fakes you'll find are chains, pedals, and rim brake calipers.

[cyruscycles]

cant find the post re fake components connecting to etube - but def think others have commented on the existence of fake groupset components in cirrculation on AliX - eg from this well known vlogger here :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhZV7R44W5s

and that youtube is few years old now!..  Hence why I was asking for reputable/trusted sellers of genuine shimano parts.  If Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue are known as trusted then happy not to take a risk on others...

That's Durianrider. He's trolling. That's all legit Shimano gear

[oker_s]

Perhaps someone can help. Ordering at Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue a 105 or Ultegra Groupeset! At Checkout i get a 150$ Discount from ALIX for later Taxes in Germany! what are youre experiences with taxes in germany at ordering a groupeset! Is it allready prepaid as Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue are claiming? Or does i need to pay later? Or just luck because goods are declared below 150€?

[Lotnik]

I have a friend who ordered Ultegra groupset to Poland latley from anrancee. They declared 100 USD but still customs catch this package and he paid customs, taxes and antydumping tax. So it's matter of luck if customs will catch that.

[H4mpie]

Perhaps someone can help. Ordering at Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue a 105 or Ultegra Groupeset! At Checkout i get a 150$ Discount from ALIX for later Taxes in Germany! what are youre experiences with taxes in germany at ordering a groupeset! Is it allready prepaid as Anrancee/Yiwu Donglue are claiming? Or does i need to pay later? Or just luck because goods are declared below 150€?

Like I posted before, I did not pay all that much (to the Netherlands), but I have come to realise it is a bit hit or miss if customs will check your package or not, and the consequences can result in you paying a hell of a lot more money than you would save. Would I do it again? Probably, but there is a risk.

[Lotnik]

Good point.
I think it's worth asking the seller to declare a legitimate sounding value on the box. At the end of the day, OEM pricing should be a fraction of retail, so even if customs see it's shimano stuff, maybe if it says $320 on the box, then customs would charge you VAT on it, and voila.
I actually do now know what anti dumping rules are, but if customs are meant to charge VAT on legitimately priced parcels, then it's a question of declaring a value that's high enough to be defensible. $100 for a shimano groupset is obviously just asking for trouble.

This doesn't work anyway. Customs will ask you first how much you paid and it's needed to send payment confirmation.

[oker_s]

thanks for our answers!

what are typicall good prices for groupsets?i'm looking for 2 weeks now:
105: without crankset was aroung ~810$ / with crankset ~900$
ultegra: without crankset 1100-1200$ (today990$)/with crankset 1300$-1400$


Does it fluctuate a lot? I'm not under any time pressure and could wait if there are huge discounts!
Of course, there's currently a $70 discount with code.