Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126

[Leon1234]

Hi All - Sorry was bit busy last two days. Here is some more info for you.

- Size 56, painted with pearl gloss finish
- Frame weight is 1055 grams w/ both hangers and the cage bolts. This is the 'Superlight' version. I was told the 'Ultralight' version was 100g lighter, but it was going to cost extra $100USD so passed on that option.
- Fork weight is 498g uncut
- Handlebar is 377g
- Seatpost is 227g
- Haven't measured weight of all the bits

Measured tire/wheel clearances... I put in my GP5000 28mm (seem to measure 29mm wide, I dont have a capiler tool), there was a good 10mm on each side, and 16mm to the top. I tried to put in my gravel wheelset which has Hutchison Caracal Rate 40mm (measure more like 45mm wide). They did not fit, but it it was not so much the width, this just didn't fit, it was to the top part of the underside of the fork that didn't have space so I couldn't get the wheel in enough to put the through axel. I think the frame might fit up to 38mm width tires.   

Bottom bracket area seems good so far. I was able to put the bottom braket in by hand easily so no threads were all good. Facing seems good all over.

In addition to the Frame, Fork, and Seatpost, the hardware included was headset bearings, race, headset spacers system, UDH rear hanger, standard front hanger, seatpost 45degree angle lock, di2 internal holder thing, seatpost-frame rubber thing, seatpost clamps for round or oval style rails, and through axels. The only had gold colored front hanger and bottle cage bolts when mine shipped.

Haven't had a chance to scope the inside, but from what I can see inside, the carbon is all very smooth

I will get around to posting pictures asap. The headtube front profile is not as 'hourglassy' as XMCS new aero frame AERYS, and seems a bit less sharp in some of the lines and angles, but the AERYS is ~$1900USD according to Patrick Lino's recent review, so the LT/Mondince is 1/3 the price.

Thanks for the first insights, that sounds great. How long did the order process take for and how was the shipping / any aditional taxes / duties?

[Shayzzz]

Hi All - Sorry was bit busy last two days. Here is some more info for you.

- Size 56, painted with pearl gloss finish
- Frame weight is 1055 grams w/ both hangers and the cage bolts. This is the 'Superlight' version. I was told the 'Ultralight' version was 100g lighter, but it was going to cost extra $100USD so passed on that option.
- Fork weight is 498g uncut
- Handlebar is 377g
- Seatpost is 227g
- Haven't measured weight of all the bits

Measured tire/wheel clearances... I put in my GP5000 28mm (seem to measure 29mm wide, I dont have a capiler tool), there was a good 10mm on each side, and 16mm to the top. I tried to put in my gravel wheelset which has Hutchison Caracal Rate 40mm (measure more like 45mm wide). They did not fit, but it it was not so much the width, this just didn't fit, it was to the top part of the underside of the fork that didn't have space so I couldn't get the wheel in enough to put the through axel. I think the frame might fit up to 38mm width tires.   

Bottom bracket area seems good so far. I was able to put the bottom braket in by hand easily so no threads were all good. Facing seems good all over.

In addition to the Frame, Fork, and Seatpost, the hardware included was headset bearings, race, headset spacers system, UDH rear hanger, standard front hanger, seatpost 45degree angle lock, di2 internal holder thing, seatpost-frame rubber thing, seatpost clamps for round or oval style rails, and through axels. The only had gold colored front hanger and bottle cage bolts when mine shipped.

Haven't had a chance to scope the inside, but from what I can see inside, the carbon is all very smooth

I will get around to posting pictures asap. The headtube front profile is not as 'hourglassy' as XMCS new aero frame AERYS, and seems a bit less sharp in some of the lines and angles, but the AERYS is ~$1900USD according to Patrick Lino's recent review, so the LT/Mondince is 1/3 the price.

Thank you for the details !

By any chance do you have some pictures of the frame (global picture and closeup pictures of the threads) please ?

Thank you 😊

[gemcxx]

I have taken a bunch of photos and scoped the inside. Have to run out for the afternoon, but will be posting an update tonight hopefully, and if I can built it up over the weekend. 

[Shayzzz]

Thank you ! I'm just waiting for these pictures to maybe purchase one ahah.
Right now I have an order placed for the LCR018-D but I'm thinking about canceling for the FM126

[bsharp77]

Thank you ! I'm just waiting for these pictures to maybe purchase one ahah.
Right now I have an order placed for the LCR018-D but I'm thinking about canceling for the FM126

Interesting….i would class them as very different frames.
The LCR018-D is what if class as “endurance aero” but still a very rapid frame (I have one!).
Whereas if class the FM126 as an all out aero frame - especially interested in the ultra light version.

I’m actually considering one to go alongside my LCR018-D, also considering Peters new aero beast and finally waiting to see what LightCarbon come out with this year aero wise - it’ll probably be between those 3.

[Shayzzz]

Interesting….i would class them as very different frames.
The LCR018-D is what if class as “endurance aero” but still a very rapid frame (I have one!).
Whereas if class the FM126 as an all out aero frame - especially interested in the ultra light version.

I’m actually considering one to go alongside my LCR018-D, also considering Peters new aero beast and finally waiting to see what LightCarbon come out with this year aero wise - it’ll probably be between those 3.

Thanks for the insight, that’s really helpful coming from someone who actually rides the LCR018-D!
Here’s my dilemma, this would actually be my very first road bike. Originally I was leaning towards the LCR018-D for the more forgiving endurance geometry, which seems like the safer bet for a beginner.

But the more I read, the more I see people saying that modern aero frames like the FM126 aren’t as harsh as the old-school race bikes used to be, and that you can just set them up a bit more relaxed with spacers and a higher stem and adapt from there.

The idea of going straight to an aero frame and skipping the “buy endurance now, switch to aero later” path is tempting, and it also saves money and I’d only have to adapt once. But I genuinely don’t know if that’s realistic for someone who’s never ridden road before.

What was your experience like on the LCR018-D? And would you say the jump to something like the FM126 is manageable for someone starting out, or would you recommend building up on the endurance frame first? I know this is not necessarily the thread for that, so if needed you can PM me, thank you for the help.

[Ludo]

If you compare mondince 56 to LC 540, geometry are fairly similar, reach on mondince is 12mm more but just get a shorter stem and you get pretty much same riding position as LCR018

[Shayzzz]

If you compare mondince 56 to LC 540, geometry are fairly similar, reach on mondince is 12mm more but just get a shorter stem and you get pretty much same riding position as LCR018

I am comparing both in size 58, I’m 191cm

[bsharp77]

Thanks for the insight, that’s really helpful coming from someone who actually rides the LCR018-D!
Here’s my dilemma, this would actually be my very first road bike. Originally I was leaning towards the LCR018-D for the more forgiving endurance geometry, which seems like the safer bet for a beginner.

But the more I read, the more I see people saying that modern aero frames like the FM126 aren’t as harsh as the old-school race bikes used to be, and that you can just set them up a bit more relaxed with spacers and a higher stem and adapt from there.

The idea of going straight to an aero frame and skipping the “buy endurance now, switch to aero later” path is tempting, and it also saves money and I’d only have to adapt once. But I genuinely don’t know if that’s realistic for someone who’s never ridden road before.

What was your experience like on the LCR018-D? And would you say the jump to something like the FM126 is manageable for someone starting out, or would you recommend building up on the endurance frame first? I know this is not necessarily the thread for that, so if needed you can PM me, thank you for the help.

The problem with the endurance tag is that everyone assumes a slow bike.
Nothing could be further from the truth - the LCR018-D is a stunning bike.
Comfortable yes, but fast - definitely. I have set lots of PBs in the last 2 months on it and I haven’t even fully dialled it in by cutting the fork yet!

I would heartily recommend it to anyone - I have no actual need to get another bike, it’s honestly that good - as a first bike it will give you more than you could ever ask for - at a silly price.
I don’t see it as a bike you’d upgrade from, rather one you keep and maybe get another bike down the line. I’ve absolutely no intention of selling mine. I use it every day at the minute, rain, hail or shine.

[Ludo]

I am comparing both in size 58, I’m 191cm

I am sure you can compare the appropriate size on the bike chart website

[Shayzzz]

I have taken a bunch of photos and scoped the inside. Have to run out for the afternoon, but will be posting an update tonight hopefully, and if I can built it up over the weekend.

Hello Would it be possible for you to share the pictures please (even if it’s just the frame and not the full build) ?

Thank you 🙏

[Serge_K]

I am comparing both in size 58, I’m 191cm

Honestly, i'd go w the 18D because geo will allow you more stack and a reach at a given size (I assume). The taller you are, the more important it is to have stack if you want to be comfortable in an aero tuck. Also, 191cm means heavy means big tyres: on the 18D, you can get c.40mm wide rims, conti gp5000 35C tyres (the brand new ones) and i expect you would be a very happy camper.
You can convince yourself that the 18D may end up being faster because it should let you spend more time in tuck, and at 40kmh, a good tuck vs catching the wind is a massive difference in watts. If you ride with 2-3 people, it's very easy to get to 40kmh on the flat these days with modern bikes.
Basically, you're new, so you are throwing darts in the dark. Tall / heavy --> stack & tyre clearance is the safer bet. And the 18D is not a slow bike to begin with.

[gemcxx]

Hi All - Sorry was bit busy last two days. Here is some more info for you.

- Size 56, painted with pearl gloss finish
- Frame weight is 1055 grams w/ both hangers and the cage bolts. This is the 'Superlight' version. I was told the 'Ultralight' version was 100g lighter, but it was going to cost extra $100USD so passed on that option.
- Fork weight is 498g uncut
- Handlebar is 377g
- Seatpost is 227g
- Haven't measured weight of all the bits

Measured tire/wheel clearances... I put in my GP5000 28mm (seem to measure 29mm wide, I dont have a capiler tool), there was a good 10mm on each side, and 16mm to the top. I tried to put in my gravel wheelset which has Hutchison Caracal Rate 40mm (measure more like 45mm wide). They did not fit, but it it was not so much the width, this just didn't fit, it was to the top part of the underside of the fork that didn't have space so I couldn't get the wheel in enough to put the through axel. I think the frame might fit up to 38mm width tires.   

Bottom bracket area seems good so far. I was able to put the bottom braket in by hand easily so no threads were all good. Facing seems good all over.

In addition to the Frame, Fork, and Seatpost, the hardware included was headset bearings, race, headset spacers system, UDH rear hanger, standard front hanger, seatpost 45degree angle lock, di2 internal holder thing, seatpost-frame rubber thing, seatpost clamps for round or oval style rails, and through axels. The only had gold colored front hanger and bottle cage bolts when mine shipped.

Haven't had a chance to scope the inside, but from what I can see inside, the carbon is all very smooth

I will get around to posting pictures asap. The headtube front profile is not as 'hourglassy' as XMCS new aero frame AERYS, and seems a bit less sharp in some of the lines and angles, but the AERYS is ~$1900USD according to Patrick Lino's recent review, so the LT/Mondince is 1/3 the price.

Here are some pictures of everything that was included in the box, some close up of the facing and some outside shots showing the pearl finish. Weekend had some nice (though windy) weather so was out riding ahead of a spell of raining days now.

[gemcxx]

Here are some pictures of everything that was included in the box, some close up of the facing and some outside shots showing the pearl finish. Weekend had some nice (though windy) weather so was out riding ahead of a spell of raining days now.

Here are outside pics and the tire clearance pics with GP5000 28mm. A bit less room than my initial assumptions but I think could still fit 35s.

[Ludo]

Overall what is your initial feedback? Discussing with Jack and pretty close to hit the buy button…