Author Topic: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126  (Read 239842 times)

BeR

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #420 on: June 04, 2026, 01:01:32 PM »
FM126

Could you install the same wheelset please for both frame ? (May be it is already done 😅)

bigApple

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #421 on: June 04, 2026, 01:14:48 PM »
Not yet, but this is not going to change things.
It's simple physics: a narrower down tube can absorb less horizontal force. A larger-diameter tube simply offers better resistance to bending. 

BeR

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #422 on: June 04, 2026, 01:31:12 PM »
Not yet, but this is not going to change things.
It's simple physics: a narrower down tube can absorb less horizontal force. A larger-diameter tube simply offers better resistance to bending.

Only if the lay-up is the same. Shape angle also has some impact on strength.

Leon1234

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #423 on: June 04, 2026, 01:33:28 PM »
Can you guys give some info about how heavy you are? I am still waiting for a friend of mine to design some custom.logos and wanted to order the frame with them. I am around 85kg and 186cm tall.

Leon1234

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #424 on: June 05, 2026, 08:11:21 AM »
Only if the lay-up is the same. Shape angle also has some impact on strength.
Could you make a similar video with your frame to see if there is a similar issue?

And to the videos: Maybe there is such an "extreme" difference between the lightcarbon and the mondice as the tires are different. The gravel tires on the lightcarbon are probably softer than the road tires on the mondice and could mask the frame flex by deforming more than the road tires (just an idea).
« Last Edit: June 05, 2026, 08:13:40 AM by Leon1234 »

bigApple

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #425 on: June 05, 2026, 09:03:44 AM »
Guys... i tested against a fake SL8 from yoho, a steel titici gravel and the lightcarbon. The FM126 is the most flexing... absolutely sure. No wheel or tire is going to change that. You could feel and see it.
This is not going to make you slower, but it could feel weird, for example during a sprint. I would be surprised, if its only my frame, because then i would have a frame with totally different layup, why should that be the reason.

Shayzzz

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #426 on: June 05, 2026, 10:13:00 AM »
Hey, do you talk about the LCR018? Between all the frame you’ve cited, could you tell us which one is the most flexible to which one is the less flexible please 🙏 ?

bigApple

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #427 on: June 05, 2026, 11:32:24 AM »
Hey, do you talk about the LCR018? Between all the frame you’ve cited, could you tell us which one is the most flexible to which one is the less flexible please 🙏 ?
If I compare only the carbon frames, the LCR018 is the stiffest, followed by the fake SL8, and the fm126 is the least stiff.

Dark17

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #428 on: June 05, 2026, 12:09:11 PM »
So I might be waiting for LCR020 instead of this frame eh.

Sakizashi

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #429 on: June 05, 2026, 12:13:00 PM »
Hey, just chipping in some thoughts as someone who has dealt with laterally flexy bikes, including one that more or less started to fail in that area--after an absurd number of miles.

I never felt that anything was off when sprinting in terms of flex. Partly because everything moves so much when sprinting, particularly out of the saddle, and partly because it's hard to pay attention to anything other than the road, the riders, and my own lack of fitness when going all out for <20 seconds.

Two places where I noticed things. First, with 2x, I started dropping chains more often, particularly when starting from stops and when climbing out of the saddle (i.e., lower-cadence, higher-torque situations), and the electronic shifting of the FD became less consistent. Second, descending became less predictable. I thought it was the wheels flexing at first, but eventually figured out that the growing softness in the BB was the primary problem. I don't know if this is helpful to folks as they try to figure out how much flex is too much flex between bikes, but I hope it is.

Leon1234

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #430 on: June 05, 2026, 01:58:35 PM »
So I might be waiting for LCR020 instead of this frame eh.
Same for me propably.

Serge_K

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #431 on: June 05, 2026, 02:14:21 PM »
FM126

i'm curious now, can you please explain how you do that test? i just tried on mine and i'm getting no deflection because i find the position super awkward and can't really apply force: i'm sure you have a technique, and i'd like to try on my own bike. my tube shapes are very aero, so it might be expect to not be laterally very stiff, so curious to try.

tisun

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #432 on: June 06, 2026, 12:15:13 AM »
FM126

Holyshit, that's a lot of flex

bigApple

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #433 on: June 06, 2026, 01:38:02 AM »
i'm curious now, can you please explain how you do that test? i just tried on mine and i'm getting no deflection because i find the position super awkward and can't really apply force: i'm sure you have a technique, and i'd like to try on my own bike. my tube shapes are very aero, so it might be expect to not be laterally very stiff, so curious to try.

Lean the bike against the wall so that the rear wheel and the handlebars are supported. Then you can apply force to the bottom bracket. In my case, the rear wheel was supported by a doorframe that was close to the wall, and the handlebars were against the wall.

bigApple

Re: Long Teng / Mondince aero frame FM126
« Reply #434 on: June 06, 2026, 01:41:21 AM »
Holyshit, that's a lot of flex

I think they designed the frame on paper. The proper process would be to manufacture it, test it, make adjustments, and repeat until the product is fully developed. I think in this case, they designed it on paper, manufactured it, and then sold it straight away to the customer. I’ve learned never to be the first to buy again 😅