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Smokemachine

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Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« on: August 30, 2025, 06:01:22 AM »
Hey y'all,

I just picked up a 2009 Scott Addict R3 frame and want to turn it into a climber build. Rim brakes are a plus for travel, and I’m aiming to keep it simple, light, and budget-friendly with some AliX parts where it makes sense. No frame size decal, so I’ll contact Scott with the serial to confirm.

Here’s my current wantlist:

BB looks like BB86 – currently running a Shimano SM-FC7800 BB which is discontinued. I’ll give it a go and only replace if it creaks (my guess is it’s 5+ years old). Do you have a recommendation for a good replacement BB from AliX?

ISP seatpost topper / chimney: Frame requires 30.25 mm. I’ve found a Ritchey product https://www.bike24.com/p2346777.html?sku=1203849
 – clean and simple, unless there’s an AliX equivalent. There is an KCNC topper on some stores but for wider seatposts than mine.

Groupset: I have an almost complete Sora groupset in my parts bin (just missing shifters). Open to mixing in AliX parts if there are good/lightweight options that make sense for climbing, or putting together a new group from AliX parts - feel free to help me out here as I've no clue as to where to look. Budget friendly is the main objective however. Senicx seem lightweight versus Shimanos cheaper versions.

Cable liners & hoses, what's good?

The cable guide below the BB is missing, and from some searches it appears at it was always glued on to the BB. Can these be sourced? I've hit a dead end.

Wheels: Prefer alloy clinchers (I’m ~83 kg and not fully sold on carbon rims for this bike).

Saddle: Planning to try the narrow Ryet saddle (already have one on order).

Stem + Handlebar: Undecided. Geometry will probably mean I need to size up the stem. Any good resources on how to calculate proper stem length from my bike fit numbers?

Would really appreciate suggestions on sourcing these parts (especially the ISP topper and wheels) from AliX or other budget-friendly places. Also open to any build advice from folks who’ve owned or built up older Addicts.

Thanks in advance!
« Last Edit: August 30, 2025, 09:09:08 AM by Smokemachine »

Merry

Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2025, 03:44:09 PM »
Hey OP, I had a similar bike building experience and aimed to make my used CAAD10 light as possible while being on a budget (student moment). Biggest and cheapest things you can do to save weight:

- Carbon saddle. Like $30 - $40 CAD and you'll probably save like 100 - 120g off of many brands. Unfortunately my carbon saddle didn't fit me too well so I'm looking for a regular saddle as I'd rather my ass not hurt over 120g.
- Titanium skewers. $20 CAD ~ and will shave off easily 50 - 60g off stock skewers. I use RISK.
- Carbon seatpost. I used Elita One.
- Kalloy Uno stem. Lightest stem in its class, costs like $20 and there's the Niu Ju mount to pair with it for an integrated bike mount look. Handlebars, I don't quite know but people here like the RXL SL. I had Toseeks but I personally didn't trust it quite enough (was about $40 CAD) so I just bought an alloy bar. But for carbon, you can definitely shave off almost 100g ~ with carbon ones.
- Lightweight bottle cages. Each cage I have weighs 11g and I shaved off 64g ~ ish off stock plastic ones.
- Carbon top cap + lightweight compression plug. I wouldn't bother with this if you don't know what you're doing here, but it's an easy way to save like 40g.
- Cranksets, you can get a carbon one from RIRO. Easiest way to drop a ton of weight but is $$$.
- EXS Air Tape is a good option for a pure lightweight build and drops a surprisingly amount of grams (roughly 50g?). But I definitely didn't quite enjoy the feel as much, so I bought name brand bar tape. You know those smooth, foam yoga pads? That's what the EXS bar tape texture felt like, but in incredibly thin tape strip form - zero padding.
- If you're ballsy enough, you can get a pair of EE fakes but they don't brake as well as the real thing. I'd rather be able to brake decently well - if you climb mountains, you've still gotta go down the mountain somehow. I bought an entire 105 R7000 groupset for the build and I'm very happy with the results.
- I believe that there are lightweight pedals out there, I forgot but Tracevelo definitely has a video on that.

- I don't know about cable liner and hoses. But my CAAD10 is from 2011 and runs external cabling, never had an issue in cold and rainy weather (Lower BC). Also, no idea about cable guiding. 3D printing's probably your best bet.

- Carbon clinchers are pretty cheap and a reputable pair is just as bulletproof as mainstream brands. Elitewheels or Easedon sells nice rim brake wheels on the cheap while being lightweight, but if you're still not sold on it, Ksyriums are probably your best bet (used).

And finally, get a pair of nice GP5000s. They are like 235g and will shave off weight off of heavy stock tires, while having much lower rolling resistance.

Also, the Sora groupset is perfectly fine but definitely quite heavy for a lightweight focused build. I recommend getting an used Ultegra 6800 groupset as it's the generation where mechanical shifting has been perfected - being 11 speed, parts readily available for replacement and doesn't cost as much. But 105 R7000 definitely works fine (although it's like a 250g weight penalty).

Hope this helps.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2025, 03:54:04 PM by Merry »

Smokemachine

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Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2025, 05:21:58 PM »
Hey Merry,

Thanks a lot for the helpful reply - i've put many of your recommended items in my AliX shopping basket.

- Re saddle, i recently ordered this badboy (which is very lightweight too) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006249187930.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.17.196f1802paJxHG and am waiting to try it out. I reckon the pure carbon saddles aren't too comfy, just like you say.
- Titanium skewers, such a good tip. Will get exactly those.
- Can't pick a new seatpost i'm afraid - it's an ISP, so will have to get a ritchey topper
- Got some carbon bottle cages at home, should do the job. Think i'll only use one in total for the bike.
- I'll do some weight vs $ comparison. There's a rather nice Senicx crankset on AliX which is marginally lighter than the Sora crank (and a 105 crank i guess!) https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007477005170.html?pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000040910679031%22%7D&sourceType=1&spm=a2g0o.wish-manage-home.0.0 not sure i'll splurge on a carbon crankset but have earmarked the RIRO one.
- Hehe Air Tape could be interesting, i am not too fussy and have also started using gloves more often which help absorbing vibrations.
- I might just go complete 105 like you, if I don't use the Sora stuff. For Rim brakes it feels like the weight savings for the brakes are tiny comparing against the price.
- will check the trace velo pedal review, i'm completely open to what to use. I ride a lot with Gravel shoes as I just prefer the comfort of mine.
- Re cabling and hoses, I suppose original Shimano or Jagwire are the way to go. There's some RISK stuff on AliX which might be worth trying though, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000385326824.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.2.37821f38VsiRBR&algo_pvid=02bf230b-18c4-4953-b6e0-e477ae97cb59&algo_exp_id=02bf230b-18c4-4953-b6e0-e477ae97cb59-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22order%22%3A%2227%22%2C%22eval%22%3A%221%22%7D&pdp_npi=6%40dis%21SEK%2186.55%2186.55%21%21%218.88%218.88%21%40211b619a17565922224277361ee6bb%2110000001576693141%21sea%21SE%212073604492%21X%211%210%21n_tag%3A-29919%3Bd%3A72773147%3Bm03_new_user%3A-29895&curPageLogUid=pAx9zwYKXYWk&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A%7Cx_object_id%3A4000385326824%7C_p_origin_prod%3A
- I'll do some comparisons again, the Ksyriums do look very good at 1480g listed, also nice with 19x622 etrto. I've got a Bianchi on rim brakes with the Shimano WH-RS100-CL wheelset currently running 28c Hutchinson Fusion 5's, so i'll check clearance tomorrow. They are 17x622 rims but i'm curious to see whether there's any tolerance for 28c tires. If possible the Ksyriums could be a great match with 26c or 28c tires.
- Good idea, GP 5000 it is. Seems like the holy grail.

How did your CAAD10 turn out? What did it weigh in at?

All the best

Merry

Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2025, 06:50:09 PM »
My CAAD10 with stock Aksium wheels (will probably pick up a pair of Easedon wheels eventually) weighs in at 7.8 kg (with 105 pedals). Plenty of weight to lose there, but I don't have enough in the budget for carbon wheels right now. If I do pick them up though, it'd weigh in at 7.2 kg ~. The stock wheelset is almost 2 kg alone - I can drop 600g from the wheels alone, which is huge.

Since I went down the 105 R7000 route, if I went with the original plan (Ultegra 6800), I'd shave off around 250g. Then, on top of that, I could lose even more weight if I was running a carbon crankset... Using the stock 105 crankset for now but that Magene powermeter crankset speaks to me like the green goblin mask lol. Plus I'd get to have shorter cranks - maybe one day. I had a look at my stock carbon FSA crankset (unfortunately didn't use it because it was 10 speed and I was replacing the BB anyways) and it weighed in around 560g, so I could definitely lose almost 200g. Having a 6.7 kg alloy bike would be something else.

On that note, definitely a wise choice to not skimp out on the brakes. I went from stock Tektros to 105 calipers and the difference was staggering; the stock Tektros felt like as if I had wet noodles grabbing onto my wheels. Now I'm confident that I could go over the bars if I braked hard enough lol. As a side note, according to my research from before the build, the R8000 calipers specifically has a stiffening plate built in the calipers. So the caliper performance is even more stiff and solid than the 105, but of course, 105s are more than enough.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2025, 02:37:32 AM by Merry »

Exar

Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2025, 12:56:08 AM »
For a seatpost topper I believe you can also use the Trek Emonda/Boone toppers, so potentially one of the AliX copies as well.

Smokemachine

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Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2025, 06:17:50 AM »
My CAAD10 with stock Aksium wheels (will probably pick up a pair of Easedon wheels eventually) weighs in at 7.8 kg (with 105 pedals). Plenty of weight to lose there, but I don't have enough in the budget for carbon wheels right now. If I do pick them up though, it'd weigh in at 7.2 kg ~. The stock wheelset is almost 2 kg alone - I can drop 600g from the wheels alone, which is huge.

Since I went down the 105 R7000 route, if I went with the original plan (Ultegra 6800), I'd shave off around 250g. Then, on top of that, I could lose even more weight if I was running a carbon crankset... Using the stock 105 crankset for now but that Magene powermeter crankset speaks to me like the green goblin mask lol. Plus I'd get to have shorter cranks - maybe one day. I had a look at my stock carbon FSA crankset (unfortunately didn't use it because it was 10 speed and I was replacing the BB anyways) and it weighed in around 560g, so I could definitely lose almost 200g. Having a 6.7 kg alloy bike would be something else.

On that note, definitely a wise choice to not skimp out on the brakes. I went from stock Tektros to 105 calipers and the difference was staggering; the stock Tektros felt like as if I had wet noodles grabbing onto my wheels. Now I'm confident that I could go over the bars if I braked hard enough lol. As a side note, according to my research from before the build, the R8000 calipers specifically has a stiffening plate built in the calipers. So the caliper performance is even more stiff and solid than the 105, but of course, 105s are more than enough.

Still a respectable weight! Sounds like you have some potential, but it's by no means a heavy bike. Would it be your daily driver? Then i'd definitely understand the want for a PM. Getting it to 6.7 would be absolutely mental. I've seen some impressive CAAD builds on weight weenies and the frames are often very nice looking. So interesting about the brakes though! Makes me wonder what the difference could be between Sora and 105 brakes. Asaide from weight and good cabling & housing, they look almost identical.

I am actually going to sand this one down and paint it in a more contemporary scheme.

Smokemachine

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Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2025, 06:18:35 AM »
For a seatpost topper I believe you can also use the Trek Emonda/Boone toppers, so potentially one of the AliX copies as well.

Thanks a lot for the tip. Would you know where to find an AliX copy? I've not seen anything remotely close to a ISP topper there (yet).

Merry

Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2025, 06:16:47 PM »
Still a respectable weight! Sounds like you have some potential, but it's by no means a heavy bike. Would it be your daily driver? Then i'd definitely understand the want for a PM. Getting it to 6.7 would be absolutely mental. I've seen some impressive CAAD builds on weight weenies and the frames are often very nice looking. So interesting about the brakes though! Makes me wonder what the difference could be between Sora and 105 brakes. Asaide from weight and good cabling & housing, they look almost identical.

I am actually going to sand this one down and paint it in a more contemporary scheme.

Yep, it's my main and only road bike lol. I have a FX2 that I use for commuting, but for road rides, the CAAD10 feels fantastic. Zippy and stiff. I actually do already have a PM on it - I got lucky eventually after searching the used market for parts. Got a matching, brand new left side 105 170mm 4iiii crank for $200 CAD ($140 USD ~). In total, the whole build cost me $1,350 CAD (included PM) thanks to AliExpress and searching on the used market.

Good luck on the build! I'd like to see where yours leads to and see how light it can possibly get. Here's mine:

Also, while taking the photo... I remembered that I forgot to mention TPU tubes. TPU tubes shave off a ton of weight for being cheap - I use RideNow.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2025, 10:33:23 PM by Merry »

Smokemachine

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Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2025, 01:27:00 AM »
Yep, it's my main and only road bike lol. I have a FX2 that I use for commuting, but for road rides, the CAAD10 feels fantastic. Zippy and stiff. I actually do already have a PM on it - I got lucky eventually after searching the used market for parts. Got a matching, brand new left side 105 170mm 4iiii crank for $200 CAD ($140 USD ~). In total, the whole build cost me $1,350 CAD (included PM) thanks to AliExpress and searching on the used market.

Good luck on the build! I'd like to see where yours leads to and see how light it can possibly get. Here's mine:

Also, while taking the photo... I remembered that I forgot to mention TPU tubes. TPU tubes shave off a ton of weight for being cheap - I use RideNow.

Nice looking bike and fantastic build cost. I would honestly not bother changing more unless shaving a tad off the weight if you do it for cheap. Are the Aksium wheels good? I’ve read all kinds of reviews. Mostly very positive but the odd bad rep. Also what brake calipers are those, 105?

I’ll keep you posted. Starting tonight sanding down the paint. Will definitely use TPU tubes!

Merry

Re: Sourcing parts for a rim brake frameset
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2025, 01:51:03 PM »
Nice looking bike and fantastic build cost. I would honestly not bother changing more unless shaving a tad off the weight if you do it for cheap. Are the Aksium wheels good? I’ve read all kinds of reviews. Mostly very positive but the odd bad rep. Also what brake calipers are those, 105?

I’ll keep you posted. Starting tonight sanding down the paint. Will definitely use TPU tubes!

Durability wise? Excellent. Aksiums are bombproof. Performance wise? Nah, they are heavy as hell - they weigh around 1,840g IIRC. The pair would be an excellent winter wheelset though. And yep, those are 105 calipers.