Yes, this geometry is very strange; I'm not entirely convinced. I have a Santa Cruz Stigmata V3, which I consider a great bike. I'd like to buy a second bike, more road-oriented, but still with a comfortable stack. For now, I've only identified the Elves Eglath ARX, but I don't really like its pronounced sloping, or the Quick Pro Zeit, which is a good compromise for me. But honestly, it's a very difficult segment, especially in the Chinese market.