Author Topic: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations  (Read 13547 times)

new2CT

Hi Guys - newbie here so hope this hasnt already been asked/answered elsewhere on the forum....

As title suggests I'm looking at a new bike build - intending to hopefully fill the job of 2 of my current bikes.  Ive a light weight bike (sworks SL6) which I use for hilly races (and its decent on the flats aswell), and easily comes in <= 6.8kg limit, and Ive a Vitus ZX-1 Evo which I use for fast rolling courses as its more aero, but about 1kg heavier approx 7.8kg+

Was hoping to source a frameset that would give me best of both worlds - aiming for a realistic complete build (inc pedals,cages, mounts etc) 6.8-7kg (without needing to use weight weenie parts/components other than a light crankset) and also being a well proven/performing aero frame ie at least as good as my zx-1 evo.

Had been researching a few options already as per below - but the the more I read around the china bike scene (which is all new to me) then more other alternatives crop up - so wondering if Im missing any obvious alternatives.

the ones Ive already research as below (with comment)

1.  Winspace t1550 inc Gen2 - prob not much lighter than my zx1, but guessing slightly better aero
2.  Seka Spear RDC - prob too expensive (ie close to recognized 'big brand') and concerns around reports of frame cracking
3.  Evolve Cima - this is the one I think ticks the boxes
4.  Winspace SLC5 - prob ticks boxes but again bit too expensive

Think my 'loose' criteria - is the frameset (inc cockpit) should be <$2500 and needs to be well regarded as being of high quality - eg the likes of the ones above have all got a seal of approval from likes of Hambini/GC Performance etc - so trusting their experience/knowledge.  So am NOT gonna consider all the random AliX gerneric cheap framesets or copy/clones of high end brand/models.  Im wanting a frameset/build that will be stiff and fast/responsive but compliant/comfortable - not asking much I know!!....

The Evolve Cima is the one that is probably closest match - but the only reviews (other than 'positive' build quality) seem to be 'first impressions' type reviews rather than more thorough ride testing - so suspicious these are mostly reviewed by 'influencers' who might have other agendas on promoting the brand.  But Evolve seem to directlly tested agains the SL8 - which again they say the data shows is improvements over the SL8.  But those results are just one aspect - not much info about on real ride quality, only think Id stumbled on is it feels preety quick but short wheelbase marks it feel a bit twitchy, and the cockpit isnt the stiffest (not sure if the Kreuza cockpit if not the stiffest ou th these but Im sure easily sorted by using a stiffer one instead.

Anyway if anyone has and advice or esp any real work ownership experience of these (or an other good options) esp in direct comparision to the likes of SL8 - id be interested to know... Cheers

Mario kart

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2025, 10:35:38 AM »
Just get a TCR if you dont want a bike from a oem

jonathanf2

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2025, 11:11:15 AM »
I'd just get a SWorks SL8. Sure it'll hurt the wallet, but it ticks all the boxes!

HarryFunmaker

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2025, 12:26:35 PM »
You might look at Elves. CyclingNews did another wind tunnel test on bikes recently and they included the Elves Falath EXP. It didn't do so great in the tests, but at least it's been tested independently, unlike a lot of Chinese or even western brands. They have some lighter, semi-aero options to choose from.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2025, 12:29:11 PM by HarryFunmaker »

toxin

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2025, 12:42:26 PM »
Quick pro AR:One would be on the cheaper side if you're willing so sacrifice a little bit of aero from the flat front face of the fork and a bit of weight compared to the evolve. It's very very stiff though..

Realistically though, the best way to achieve your goal would be to get a secondhand SL8 or supersix

new2CT

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2025, 12:57:54 PM »
Thanks for the comments guys.... Yip prob the easiest way to get something to match/rival the SL8 - is just to get a bloody SL8 and be done with it! :-\  Unfortunately as much as Id love the SWorks, the wallet def isnt that flush atm!, but with the standard Spesh apparently only 100g heavier for frameset, I could prob settle for that tradeoff.  I actually love my SWorks SL6 - just its rim brake 11 speed and have an itch to build up a 12 speed disk to replace it - just moving with the times!...  Cheers

klrdd

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2025, 01:10:42 PM »
If, as a rule, you're not interested in OEMs, I don't know if you've come to the right place! ;D maybe stick to the youtuber comment section  ;D ;D

jonathanf2

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2025, 01:56:33 PM »
I'd definitely just get a standard SL8 frameset and get the best Chinese wheels, aero cockpit and lightweight components you can get. That should certainly makeup the difference in a race scenario compared to an SWorks while having a solid base frame.

Takiyaki

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2025, 03:40:24 PM »
Just get a TCR if you dont want a bike from a oem
Giant is basically dead in the US. Id prob go for a Supersix

Blueberry

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2025, 06:22:55 PM »
maybe ICAN A23 or VB268? I like the look of the A23 and I've had good experiences with ICAN but I think the A23 is relatively untested. Very SL8 looking but with a round seatpost. Neither frame is super lightweight but if you build with the right components it could be semi light probably.

https://www.velobuild.com/products/velobuild-2024-vb-r-268-carbon-fiber-aero-road-frame-disc-integrated-cables
https://www.icanbikes.com/Products-list/superlight-carbon-aero-road-frameset-a23/

pieper

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2025, 10:28:31 PM »
I'm in the same boat as you new2CT — Looking to buy a new aero and also lightweight bike. I'm probably going to pull the trigger on an Evolve once Joe's China Cycling ride review comes out in a few-ish weeks. He said his full review is coming soon.

Tvobias

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2025, 02:04:19 AM »
I’m in the same boat as you and was really looking forward to the Mondince Indiegogo deal, but now that it’s not happening anytime soon, I’ve been looking at other frames. I think I’ll probably go with the Evolve Cima, but I’ve also been keeping an eye on the VoiceVelo Echo aero frame, which should be releasing soon.

It’s been mentioned here before:
https://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=6304.0

Tvobias

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2025, 05:18:35 AM »
Yes, i agree with you on the price on Mondince vs Evolve and that is why it so unfortunate that is is not going to be availbale for a long time... I think they hit excatly the spot where a lot of people could be interested.

This is the only geometry chart i have seen and it is from the other thread.

Requiem84

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2025, 12:35:41 PM »
Intropy Speedster if you’re willing to pay the cash..

Bowen1911

Re: "One bike to rule them all" - lightweight/aero frameset recommendations
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2025, 09:41:05 AM »
Thanks for the comments guys.... Yip prob the easiest way to get something to match/rival the SL8 - is just to get a bloody SL8 and be done with it! :-\  Unfortunately as much as Id love the SWorks, the wallet def isnt that flush atm!, but with the standard Spesh apparently only 100g heavier for frameset, I could prob settle for that tradeoff.  I actually love my SWorks SL6 - just its rim brake 11 speed and have an itch to build up a 12 speed disk to replace it - just moving with the times!...  Cheers

You could do what I did.  Build a Speeder RD-55, get hit by a car, use insurance money to buy S-Works SL8.

roughly 9k build for under 3.