AERO GRAVEL Frame: which one?!

[Samuel BMR]

Hi Rabbit Hole Dwellers

I'm looking for an AERO GRAVEL FRAMESET.

With minimum 45c tire clearance
UDH
- 1200g
Aero Seatpost (for some reason, very important to me...)
If possible with Integrated Aero Gravel bars

Not too expensive.

So the SEKA GRAVEL? Too expensive right now

I've compiled these:

ELVES 45c 1050g NO BARS 850€
VELOBUILD 50c 1020g NO BARS 500€ (!!)
WINSPACE 50c 950g + BARS 1500€
Quick Pro 45c 950g + BARS 1700€
Mondice 50c 1100g NO BARS No Aero Seat 600€


XMC CARBONSPEED: bit heavy
MONDICE: no aero seat post
SERAPH/Tan Tan, Carbonda & Long Teng I don't remember finding anything worthwhile

Any other suggestions or opinions on the frame set mentioned above?

Thanks a lot

[carboncal]

Mr warning on the elves frame, it is very aggressive geometry. I was looking at it myself for a while until I realized to the geometry.

[jfcb]

My feedback, from behind my screen ofcourse 

ELVES 45c 1050g NO BARS 850€  => it has a strange geometry (very low), not many reviews out there.
VELOBUILD 50c 1020g NO BARS 500€ (!!)  => best bang for the buck, looks aero/modern, many happy riders
WINSPACE 50c 950g + BARS 1500€ => it appears in reality the frame in M is around 1200gr. Customer experience with Winspace is hit or miss.
Quick Pro 45c 950g + BARS 1700€ => beautifull aero frame, lightweight and the brand has a great reputation, borderline expensive though.
Mondice 50c 1100g NO BARS No Aero Seat 600€ => not an aero frame set, geometry is more for adventure IMO, ideal if you ride on rougher terrain.

Other valid options: Ican Graro. the frame looks aero, sub €1000 , ICAN makes quality frames.

[Motus]

I vote for the velobuild

[Samuel BMR]

I vote for the velobuild

Looks great!! What size is it? How heavy was the frame set alone? What bars did you take?

[Bonpensiero]

+1 for the ICAN Graro. Stiff & fast.

[Motus]

Looks great!! What size is it? How heavy was the frame set alone? What bars did you take?

The size is an XS, the handlebars are supplied by them.

The frame weighs approximately 1160 grams and the fork 500 grams. As shown with 29x2.1, the bike weighs approximately 7.8-7.9 kg, with 38mm road tires, approximately 7.3 kg.

[Takiyaki]

The Velobuild is so cheap I'm gonna grab one to replace my Seaboard GR05. Carbon rides so much nicer than steel and it will be nice to have a comfy road bike and a more aggressive bike for short hard rides.

[Samuel BMR]

+1 for the ICAN Graro. Stiff & fast.

Yeah the Grato looks like a very good option indeed!!

[gribs]

My feedback, from behind my screen ofcourse 
Mondice 50c 1100g NO BARS No Aero Seat 600€ => not an aero frame set, geometry is more for adventure IMO, ideal if you ride on rougher terrain.

I agree and that's why I bought one. The front end is high, it's slack for a Chinese gravel frame, and the length means I can run a shortish (80mm) stem for reasonably responsive steering. My previous off road bike was a Vitus cx bike and it feels very stable/slow to turn compared to that. Other people seem to think very differently and with the shorter fork and a long negative rise stem they seem to be able to get a reasonably aggressive position.

[Samuel BMR]

So went with VELOBUILD size S
Around 2500€ for it all with SRAM 13s XPLR
BITRANZ super wide carbon wheels (1280g for 600€!!)

There she is PURPLE DEATH, 7,9kg

[SpitFighter]

+1 for the ICAN Graro. Stiff & fast.

Sorry to be off-topic, but which chainring are you running and which size? I'm thinking of changing the stock Sram 42T for the summer season.

[Bonpensiero]

Pass Quest 42t.

[kungie]

When do you need it by? Lightcarbon is apparently producing an aero gravel bike and revealing it around the time of Eurobike

[CycOps]

When do you need it by? Lightcarbon is apparently producing an aero gravel bike and revealing it around the time of Eurobike

@Kungie, is there more information about this new LightCarbon frame somewhere? I've used the search function here but didn't find anything. Thank you.