Author Topic: Thinkrider PP5 power meter  (Read 128838 times)

CycOps

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #135 on: February 13, 2026, 11:21:17 AM »
I think some of the comments and issues with cheap PM have  to be put in context of use case. I am new to the sport, I have wimpy legs with a 210W FTP and never push more than 700W. So when I hear a review talking about issues during sprints with 1200W, am I really concerned, should I really be? I spend 99% of my time between 140 and 270W, at this point of my journey, I don’t care about a 2% offset. So the cheap $120 PM might be all I need right now.

If you have just one bike, I wouldn't worry about accuracy to much. If you use it for FTP testing and setting your training zones, and then train on it, it doesn't really matter it it reads a few percent to high or to low, as long as it is consistent in itself.
If you have several bikes and you want powermeters on most or all of them (and sure that's what you want 😁), you'll want consistency in the power readings between theses bikes, IMHO.

muringuets

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #136 on: February 13, 2026, 12:09:42 PM »
I see a lot of concerned users here.
If the product is just a random number generator, if it's complete crap—why, why, why do you even bother coming here to comment and complain about it?
Let the people who want it order it. It's their money.
No one's forcing you to buy the crappy power meter from ThinkRider, or any other chinese power meter for that matter...

"oh but you could buy a good power meter for $250"

What if I want to buy the crappy one that costs $50?

Is it possible that people are in some ways concerned that I'll be misguided by wrong power figures?

Geez…


Da11as

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #137 on: February 13, 2026, 03:50:55 PM »
The main problem with us, who are shilling these cheap PMs, is that they do not fulfill its primary purpose i.e. reproducible (enough) power measurement. People may be looking at these PMs, not convinced by "good packaging, did not install yet" 5-star Ali reviews and thus guided to specialized forums like this. And if these folks read positive discussions, they may expect what is expected from a proper power meter i.e. reproducible (enough) power measurement.

It is in the same realm as having frame with oval BB or group set that shifts 50% of the time. Does it looks like a proper frame/groupset? Probably yes. Can it be used for its main purpose? Most likely, not. At best you can assemble them together, put square wheels on the frame and call it an art object reminiscent of a bike. But it will not be a bike.

Would such power meter show some numbers on your computer? Yes. Would you be able to track your progress? Properly pace your effort? Properly compare your intervals at 350W three months before and now, after consistent structured training, barely be able to squeeze 330W out of your legs (because your PM decided to drift 20W down on this ride)? Ride uphill at zone 2, go downhill and now your zone 2 is somehow substantially more difficult, because they did not manage to implement proper temperature compensation?

I would love to get a really cheap power meter to be able to more easily swap my cranks and buy it for all of my bikes, but if it doesn't fulfill its dedicated purpose it cannot be called a power meter. It is power estimator. And I am fine with you buying power estimators. Just don't call it power meter for the sake of those who want to buy a proper power meter.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2026, 04:19:35 PM by Da11as »

Ludo

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #138 on: February 13, 2026, 04:17:05 PM »
I think it’s urgent for our PM expert to release his freaking video, we are all going mad here!  Lol

kubackje

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #139 on: February 13, 2026, 09:23:15 PM »
I see a lot of concerned users here.
If the product is just a random number generator, if it's complete crap—why, why, why do you even bother coming here to comment and complain about it?
Let the people who want it order it. It's their money.
No one's forcing you to buy the crappy power meter from ThinkRider, or any other chinese power meter for that matter...

"oh but you could buy a good power meter for $250"

What if I want to buy the crappy one that costs $50?

Is it possible that people are in some ways concerned that I'll be misguided by wrong power figures?

Geez…

The answer is pretty simple - it's a forum and we are here to discuss thing. If someone doesn't want to read our discussion about certain things, he should not post about it or even use a forum. Simple.

muringuets

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #140 on: February 14, 2026, 06:45:18 AM »
The answer is pretty simple - it's a forum and we are here to discuss thing. If someone doesn't want to read our discussion about certain things, he should not post about it or even use a forum. Simple.

Perhaps I didn't use the right words. I don't have any problem with anyone here—especially not with debating things in this forum. That's exactly the purpose of being here, right?

Ten years ago, there was very little information about Chinese carbon frames. If it weren't for the early buyers who purchased them, tested them, figured out which ones were good and which were bad, and shared their experiences, we'd all still be in the dark, wouldn't we?

Today, the Chinese frame market is well established. Thanks in large part to this forum, we all have a pretty good idea of which manufacturers are reliable and which ones to avoid.

Now, drawing a parallel to Chinese power estimators: by now, it's widely accepted that most of them are inaccurate and unreliable (with exceptions like Magene and maybe Geoid). Point. That's it.

There are one or two isolated voices here claiming their unit is good and reliable, but they usually rely on non-rigorous tests, so I wouldn't put much stock in them.

But there's a key difference: a crappy frame could potentially fail catastrophically—leaving you with fewer teeth in your mouth, or worse.

My crappy power estimator, as far as I know, won't break, explode, or cause my bike to fail. The bike still works fine (it's not ok to compare it to a square wheel bike). I can ride normally, I simply ignore the inaccurate numbers if I want.

The weight and price of my power estimator is comparable to a regular spider adapter (piece of metal/carbon to mount my crank arm to my chainring). So I ordered the crappy power estimator, I'm using it, I'm fully aware I can't trust the readings, and I'm okay with that. That's the math I made.

I'm not sure there's a real need for more people to keep buying these, testing them, and coming here just to say the obvious 'it's crap.' But with the recent price drops, more and more people will probably get them anyway. Let's just hope they don't end up overtraining—or worse—because the power numbers were way off.

eugeniob

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #141 on: February 14, 2026, 08:59:50 AM »
I test my PP5 with Direto XR at low power

LightBlue PP5
« Last Edit: February 14, 2026, 10:09:19 AM by eugeniob »

wanted100

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #142 on: February 14, 2026, 09:51:18 AM »
I test my PP5 with Direto XR at low power

LightBlue PP5

Where are the values? 😂

eugeniob

« Last Edit: February 14, 2026, 10:10:04 AM by eugeniob »

Rajmundx

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #144 on: February 14, 2026, 11:32:27 AM »
I test my PP5 with Direto XR at low power

LightBlue PP5

I am no expert but it looks similar for me or?

eugeniob

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #145 on: February 15, 2026, 06:52:54 AM »
New, more significant tests for power and durability

PP5 vs XXPro   all Thinkrider PM






and low power



« Last Edit: February 15, 2026, 06:54:38 AM by eugeniob »

Samuel BMR

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #146 on: February 15, 2026, 08:31:55 AM »
New, more significant tests for power and durability

PP5 vs XXPro   all Thinkrider PM






and low power




So what’s the bottom line? Kinda reliable? Sorta reliable? Pure Random Number Generator ? Even if there are occasional losses in power reading and a 2-3% accuracy rate only, I’ll accept that
I have & ride 23 bikes
Also I ride a lot, like a lot lot

eugeniob

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #147 on: February 15, 2026, 09:28:40 AM »
The accurancy is less than 2%.

For me it's quite reliable, no significant losses have occurred, as soon as meteo permits I'll test it on the road, for 288 Euros and 610 g it seems like a great purchase to me.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2026, 09:33:22 AM by eugeniob »

wanted100

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #148 on: February 15, 2026, 10:25:09 AM »
The detection of max power seems to look a little different..

choan

Re: Thinkrider PP5 power meter
« Reply #149 on: February 16, 2026, 01:33:04 AM »
I just need a power meter to pace my long gravel ride. I use my gravel for fun ridenot structured training. I don't need my assioma power meter on it.

If it in a good ballpark of the avg power I will be happy