Author Topic: 🔔 Pre-Order Now: Tideacebike NEW Mold 32er XC Carbon Hardtail Frame  (Read 124372 times)

RiP

Me, I've ordered one almost 1 month ago, according to the lastest update from last week, it should be shipped this week...

Regarding frame size, the choice right now is still limited to the availability of just the L size. So, I went for that size, also considering and comparing the frame geo to my current 29ers in L size, a Scott Spark RC and a Cannondale Scalpel HT.

My 32er wheelset was already built and shipped, currently on its way from China to Europe... 8)

misung

Me, I've ordered one almost 1 month ago, according to the lastest update from last week, it should be shipped this week...

Regarding frame size, the choice right now is still limited to the availability of just the L size. So, I went for that size, also considering and comparing the frame geo to my current 29ers in L size, a Scott Spark RC and a Cannondale Scalpel HT.

My 32er wheelset was already built and shipped, currently on its way from China to Europe... 8)
Hello, do you have any update with your frame? How long was the shipping time? I ordered one too.
Do you have also tires for your wheelset?

RiP

Hello, do you have any update with your frame? How long was the shipping time? I ordered one too.
Do you have also tires for your wheelset?

Hi.

When I bought my frame+fork, almost 1 month ago, I was told it would ship in the beginning of this month, mainly because of the fork, that was due to be produced only by the end of April. Late last week, as I had no update on AliExpress, I inquired the seller about a shipping estimation and I was told that "your frame will be ready in short days" (exact quote). So, I'm kind of expecting it will ship until the end of this week, but in reality, nobody told me that was a certainty...

Regarding the tires, I already have a set of Maxxis Aspen 32x2.4 at home over a month ago. That was my main concern, to get the tires, as they were out of stock everywhere in Europe when I decided to start this 32er project. Only after I had them at home that I went ahead and bought the wheelset and frameset!

Cloxxki76

Hi.

When I bought my frame+fork, almost 1 month ago, I was told it would ship in the beginning of this month, mainly because of the fork, that was due to be produced only by the end of April. Late last week, as I had no update on AliExpress, I inquired the seller about a shipping estimation and I was told that "your frame will be ready in short days" (exact quote). So, I'm kind of expecting it will ship until the end of this week, but in reality, nobody told me that was a certainty...

Regarding the tires, I already have a set of Maxxis Aspen 32x2.4 at home over a month ago. That was my main concern, to get the tires, as they were out of stock everywhere in Europe when I decided to start this 32er project. Only after I had them at home that I went ahead and bought the wheelset and frameset!
A friend in NL has some spare new Aspens in his store, but it's not a web store. If someone needs tires I could probably get them to you, he bought extra just in case this would be a one time opportunity.
The Peyote 2.4 is testing as extremely well rolling.
When I rode the Aspens they seemed very capable already and all the testers say that of the 32x2.4" version. I'm curious how the Peyote will ride on rough technical gravel singletrack.
Already thinking I'll be wanting a Schwalbe Rick XC Pro or Maxxis Forekaster front. Even Maxxis Dissector, if it bring me meaningful extra cornering speed and not too much extra rolling resistance.
The Rick rolls really well as well it seems from John Karrasch's testing. I had a similar Rick Race in 29" but it wore out really quickly as a rear.

Please, before you rush and build your frame and fork, take an accurate weight measurement? We'll all know, and can eventually access manufacturing consistency.

If you ride a lot of tight trails, you may want to consider an angle adjust headset (not sure which exact one will fit), to get the head tube angle on the Tideace 1 or 2 degrees steeper. With the stock fork, the trail figure is on the very extreme end of slow steering response, a combination of slack head tube, short offset and large wheel all working together to result in slow handling. It also results on a very long front end, but with the unusually long chainstays that may well work out in terms of not unweighting the front wheel. If you ride exceedingly challenging descends you may even go slacker on the head tube, but then a rigid fork is probably less than ideal anyway.

Once suspension forks become more easily available in a reasonable price range, the Tideace might be a great candidate for an 80 mm fork. The 80mm would steeper (quicken) the bike up a bit, and get the bottom bracket down to a more typical height. The resulting tilt will see you wanting to slide the seat back though, and that may call for a shorter stem. If you got an L when you're more of an XL fit, this is just a welcome tweak.
With a 100 mm travel fork, it will ride much as with the rigid fork, although some forks will offer more offset to achieve more agile steering.
Some custom builders offer reasonably priced custom steel rigid forks. Won't be light, but will offset a change to tweak steering response and perhaps even choose another hub standard. Some may want to run a rear hub up front as well in case their rear freehub fails. It could also be a singlespeed hub with wide flange spacing as a bail out for on trail wheel swap.

I'm curious about the announced SR Suntour 32" fork. It seems to be quite light and might well suffice for my riding, no need to get a Fox or Intend?

RiP

@Cloxxki76, don't worry, I'll get the weights for frame and fork once tthe frameset arrives, before the build...

In my case, this 32er project is more a thing out of curiosity for the wheel size novelty, so my planned used for this bike is only gravel roads and light trails, at easy going pace (like recovery and family rides), the main reason being it will be a "full-hard" MTB. The cost of the only available 32er fork, the Intend, by itself is above the total cost of this project for me, ready to ride! Even if other fork brands come up with their 32er forks, it will be a long time before product lines trickle down and prices reach "normal" levels for those new options. So for me, this 32er will keep its "full-hard" condition for the foreseeable future!




Cloxxki76

Excellent!

For gravel rides with an MTB or alt bar, such a frame could be exceedingly good. Handling if too sluggish can be tweaked a bit with an angle adjust headset and/or a custom steel fork with heaps more offset.

The Wren fork appears to really exists at about half the price of the Intend, but I'm not hearing the greatest things about it.

I'm hoping to get an answer from SR Suntour, it would be nice if their 32" fork is up to stuff.
I now ride a Fox from 2014 and a Suntour ought to be to that quality level by 2026, I would think, perhaps naively so.

Have you gotten wheels yet? The XT 157 mm hub seems to be the best on the market in terms of spoke bracing angles but for gravel riders I guess even the faux-superboost options (same flange spacing as 148) in 157 mm will be just fine. Some wheel brands focus on absolute minimal deflection, other promote "compliance" and design for it. I'm not sure which way I'm going to be preferring.
Since the time Tideace announced this project, the rest of the market seems to have backed away from Superboost and going with regular boost for now, and then for XC and gravel bikes both. Reasoning is that 29" Enduro seems good enough with 148 mm so 32" XC will probably be just fine as well.

RiP

My wheelset is already in Europe, set to be delivered until next wednesday. Once it arrives, I'll check the weight, and install the Aspen tires, cassette and 180mm discs! 8)

Regarding the hub standard discussion, I've done some research prior to placing my order for this frame, looked into a lot of prototypes 32er bikes, and from the ones that listed the type of rear hub, it was almost 50/50 between Boost and Superboost, I found...
« Last Edit: May 14, 2026, 07:54:26 AM by RiP »

jefflinde

If I were a betting man I would put money on the standard for 32er's to be super boost.  Firstly, it is a new(ish) standard and it is a great way for the industry to sell all new stuff to people.  Second, as gullible as people are to marketing BS, there is not real defensible position to going with boost over superboost.  Consumers fall for the stiffness mumbo jumbo all the time even though it was never a thing until the industry started pushing it.  The only benefit to boost is that it is already ubiquitous in the bike industry and that is the very reason the bike industry won't go that route. So it would only be by consumer demand but consumers are generally dumb and gullible to the aforementioned marketing BS.  So while some frame now are coming in boost, I would guess that once the big evil bike corporations start making them, they will be super boost and boost frames will become relics of the past.

RiP

And I was contacted by the seller to tell me there's a delay with the production of the 32er fork, as is still in testing, and that it will take them roughly another month to have it for ready to ship...  :(

Cloxxki76

If I were a betting man I would put money on the standard for 32er's to be super boost.  Firstly, it is a new(ish) standard and it is a great way for the industry to sell all new stuff to people.  Second, as gullible as people are to marketing BS, there is not real defensible position to going with boost over superboost.  Consumers fall for the stiffness mumbo jumbo all the time even though it was never a thing until the industry started pushing it.  The only benefit to boost is that it is already ubiquitous in the bike industry and that is the very reason the bike industry won't go that route. So it would only be by consumer demand but consumers are generally dumb and gullible to the aforementioned marketing BS.  So while some frame now are coming in boost, I would guess that once the big evil bike corporations start making them, they will be super boost and boost frames will become relics of the past.
Wheel brand Newmen has been putting out studies and really pushing for 157 mm for 32".
Industry Nine and Berd seem to ahve chosen for 148 mm so far.

Hardly anyone is going to unlace 29" hubs to build 32" wheels, so it doesn't matter a lot. There's just not many 157 mm hub out there that actually make the most of the width to space the spoke flanges.
Shimano XT is the best one it seems, and the true superboost alternatives are all relatively exotic.

The main problem with 157 mm for me might be that I don't trust frame designers to actually invest 2 minutes to engineer a bend in the chainstays that ensure heels get the optimal clearance.

RiP

And I was contacted by the seller to tell me there's a delay with the production of the 32er fork, as is still in testing, and that it will take them roughly another month to have it for ready to ship...  :(

In other news, my 32er wheelset arrived last friday. The wheels look very well built and the seller at AliExpress was very supportive and helpful to build the wheelset following my exact specification, so I can recommend his service.

The seller (LIENGU Bike Official Store) already created a listing for the spec'd wheelset for this frame (the pictures are from my wheelset), so for those interested, here's the link: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005012277552752.html

The wheelset weight is 1800g (front 830, rear 970) with tubeless valves, ready to use straight out of the box, as I chose sealed rims (without internal spoke holes) and they don't require tubeless tape. These were custom built by the seller for this frameset (with SuperBoost rear hub).


Now on to install the Maxxis Aspen 32x2.4 tires, 180mm rotors and cassette. To test them, I'll need to get the frame and fork, that's been delayed...


P.S.: I forgot to mention that I chose the "Seller's Shipping Method" for DPD duty free delivery in Europe and it took exacty 3 weeks to arrive!
« Last Edit: May 25, 2026, 03:37:24 AM by RiP »

Cloxxki76

Does anyone know why the 32"er is ~€200 extra over the 29" offerings?

Main difference I see is the in-frame storage, but it's also well heavier, much more than the wheel size would account for.

Did anyone recently order the frame and receive one? This pre-order process started a while ago, was anyone supplied already?
Curious what a realistic delivery time might be.


Asco

Does anyone know why the 32"er is ~€200 extra over the 29" offerings?

Main difference I see is the in-frame storage, but it's also well heavier, much more than the wheel size would account for.

Did anyone recently order the frame and receive one? This pre-order process started a while ago, was anyone supplied already?
Curious what a realistic delivery time might be.

Because there is way less competition in the 32'er space? They can't charge 200€ extra on 29'ers because there's a million identical frames people can buy instead.

RiP

Because there is way less competition in the 32'er space? They can't charge 200€ extra on 29'ers because there's a million identical frames people can buy instead.

100%! This frame is the only option listed/available frame from a chinese manufacturer site or at AliExpress, afaik. Also, even with the price premium from a 29er, it's still a lot cheaper compared to any of the other few 32er frames available elsewhere right now...

Cloxxki76

Because there is way less competition in the 32'er space? They can't charge 200€ extra on 29'ers because there's a million identical frames people can buy instead.
Tantan just asks $299 for theirs.
They're angling for OEM deals now though, so only selling via email. I don't have a desire for a suspension fork just yet and only the very expensive Intend is a viable option at the moment.
With shorter chainstays and less extreme steep/slack geomtry, I would have ordered the Tantan anyway. It's great for someone's riding, but perhaps not for my local trails.
The Tantan has even longer chainstays than the Tideace, even steeper seat tube and designed around a 120 mm fork. This makes the Tideace for my use case easier to setup in a way close to my needs, as long as I keep it on a slightly shorter rigid fork.

If the Tideace would be a more middle of the road design I might be promoting it on my 32 inch bikes subreddit. Alas, it's quite long so perhaps takes sizing down and suit mostly taller riders.

Next is Big Rock. They've shown of a size Small bike that has short chainstays and bespoke VERY low bar/stem combo. If anyone know how to actually get in touch with them...supposedly they're working on 4 sizes.