IGPSPORT Binavi Air

[YonyTony]

https://www.igpsport.com/pl/product/binavi-air

Igpsport released slimmed down version of popular binavi cycling computer. I gambled and bought one, we will see in a week or two.
Looks like only “negative” differences are smaller screen (for me it’s positive change since I don’t want tablet like gear on handlebars) lower screen resolution and smaller battery (I hope it will be a problem to me since I am eager to ride some ultras this year    )
 I am actually surprised that it’s much cheaper than normal binavi.

[zealot128]

Interesting! Where did you bought it? On their website, if I follow amazon or their own store, I can only see the normal BiNav and the other devices.
Also, what's the price diff to the full binavi?

[YonyTony]

I bought from AliExpress, official igpsport store. ~196 USD vs 288 USD for “normal” binavi.
I also thought of igs800 (415USD) because I want to have training plans but price difference is way too much and binavi air also has some training plans.

[YonyTony]

I received mine today. For now it looks fine, has all the features I need. Setting up activity pages is kind of weird to me (I am used to geoid/one lap fit where it was super easy and comfortable). Screen is indeed dark but it looks like different kind of screen - I think it will be well visible even on sunny rides so no worries that it’s dark.
Fun fact: my first activity was flight from China (not actual one, it’s just pre programmed )

[berbaroovez]

are you able to upload .fit files or any type of workout to it ?

[YonyTony]

I am not sure about fit files, but you can create your own workout, use some predefined or sync with trainingpeaks and distribute to device. In attachment example of my custom test training. On computer you choose training and it guides you throughout with details which zone you are or should be. I also attach how training screen looks like (it is the same on computer, you can freely customize 4 bottom panels). There is also an option to mimic real ride - you cycle indoors on routes you have ridden irl, although I haven’t tested it yet - for me it’s pointless as I don’t have smart trainer yet. After the training computer rates how well you performed on each stage of predefined workout, you can set goals to speed, cadence, power zones, hr zones, hr, power, %FTP.
I only would like to have more predefined workouts (for now only 8 are available) but you can create your own quite neatly so it’s acceptable.

[YonyTony]

Another feature I will really appreciate when spring comes is real-time tracking. When activity starts you can share link with anyone to track where you are. There is an auto-enable option so I hope there is a way to share it automatically every time I ride. Other way you have to start activity on computer, share link via phone, put phone back into pocket and proceed- kinda lame.

[zealot128]

I am not sure about fit files, but you can create your own workout, use some predefined or sync with trainingpeaks and distribute to device. In attachment example of my custom test training. On computer you choose training and it guides you throughout with details which zone you are or should be. I also attach how training screen looks like (it is the same on computer, you can freely customize 4 bottom panels). There is also an option to mimic real ride - you cycle indoors on routes you have ridden irl, although I haven’t tested it yet - for me it’s pointless as I don’t have smart trainer yet. After the training computer rates how well you performed on each stage of predefined workout, you can set goals to speed, cadence, power zones, hr zones, hr, power, %FTP.
I only would like to have more predefined workouts (for now only 8 are available) but you can create your own quite neatly so it’s acceptable.

I use the 603S currently exclusively for indoor - I guess the software is very similar for both devices. I have to say, it works okish, it controls the smart trainer according to the plan, yes. But as you said, there is ONLY integration besides putting it in manually on the app like a monkey is with Trainingpeaks, but no Intervals.icu, which I would prefer and works flawlessly with Wahoo. The workout page is not as customizable as the Wahoo Elemnt I used before, only 2 info fields can be on the bottom, the top and middle section takes a lot of space, so you don't see many fields I would rather like to have. Yourhe binavi seems to have at least 4, that's an upgrade.
Worst of all, on the 603S i couldn't find an option to change resistance level during workout at all, all workout difficulty derives from the FTP which you put in the app. So it's kind of a bummer for me. Never rode it outdoors but I don't have high hopes because the display of the 603S is quite reflective/glaring.
The German translation of the app is also not good though, it is hard to understand what some of the options are supposed to do and the field names occasionally explode from their places as the words are too long/font size to big.

[MarcFaFo]

are you able to upload .fit files or any type of workout to it ?

Yes did it. Works Fine

[YonyTony]

Yes did it. Works Fine

Could you tell how to sen .fit files?Thanks

Is there a way to autocalibrate altitude? In the app I can set my home altitude and I thought it will be automatically update value when gps senses that I am at home but it doesn’t work this way - it’s like a preset so you don’t have to remember what altitude your home is at.
It’s shitty if it doesn’t autocalibrate beacause judging on the barometer altitude is going to drift greatly:/ or I am missing some option

[MarcFaFo]

I just created a fit file and sent it to my BiNavi Air through the App.
According the user guide, (connect BiNaivi Air to APP tap on the yellow small icon, right low corner of device picture) Tap: Specially Function - Select: How to calibrate the elevation.Then it reads amongst more: Auto calibration of height is done through GPS. This will be updated 5 min after GPS connection

[YonyTony]

Oh I will test it then. I will also read user guide, thought it’s kind of useless as most Chinese guides but apparently it’s not the case here
I left my binavi air on window ledge for ca. 10 minutes and altitude didn’t change - maybe it requires change of position or something. Does auto calibration work for you?

[MarcFaFo]

I did the same as you did. Indeed it does not change and it is reading the wrong altitude. Here were I am living it is 1 m above sea level. It red yesterday 130m and today 45m. The auto calibrate does not work for me either even after riding. I only used it twice and the first time I manually corrected the altitude and did not bother to further test it. Now I used it for the second time and indeed it does not auto calibrate correctly.

Setting the altitude every time one rides is indeed a hassle. My suggestion is to wtite to them. They are very open to suggestions.
Be aware that until 25 Feb they have Chinese new year. Their response might be a little slow.

I already did wrote to them because of maps updates only work with Windows (Not Apple or Linux).
I also asked for a Magenta line for route indication instead of the green line currently available.

[YonyTony]

Thank you for the test. I reported issue via igpsport app, I hope it doesn’t fly into void:)

[MarcFaFo]

Last few weeks riding with the BiNavi Air outside. Elevation keeps coming back to +/- 2-3 m mismatch. Which is great given the fact that I am riding between -3m to +10m under/above sea level.