Author Topic: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike  (Read 181067 times)

bosborus

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #360 on: August 18, 2026, 03:32:23 PM »
Aerys was designed by us. Current designs XMCS.

The logo set-up is not my persomal cup of tea, but a lot of people like it. In your particular case, I’d buy either a RTP frame and get on the frame what you have in mind, or send Xmcs what you have in mind and ask if they can do a custom painting for you.

One thing I learned quite quickly is that you cannot please everyone. Quite some people were not fond of Aerys either.

In my opinion, once you reach a certain price point, you don’t want a no-name product or a Tractor/Chinarello decal. You’re more likely to be looking for a real brand that also has some resale value. For that reason, it’s absolutely important to have a consistent brand identity—and not constant name changes.
Don’t get me wrong: I’m more than convinced of the quality of the products and recommend them regularly, but at this price point, you expect not only lightweight and aerodynamic frames, but also brand value.

Requiem84

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #361 on: August 19, 2026, 02:25:30 AM »
I completely agree.

Hence why we worked on a new (high end) brand identity. There is a complete branding book, linking all Xmcs core principles and values to the AERYS concept. It was much more than a name, it was a lot of hard work and iterations to position Xmcs brand identity.

It was validated in the trademark database, trademark was filed, until just prior to the acceptance deadline a competitor notified us of his objection because he felt the name was too similar to a (non racing) bike range of his.

You cannot imagine how disappointing it was to see all these months of hard work, creativity and passion to be put down the drain with one letter.

That happened late, so not a lot of time to go through the same process again before the release pf the new frames. There needs to be something in terms of branding with the go live. There now is, and there are multiple options.

Perhaps in the future there will be something else like Aerys as a proper evocative high end brand identity, but exactly as you say: xmcs cannot keep on changing these things.

Simultaneously the half cut logo is a sales banger. GRT and VRT frames are selling incredibly well. Telling me the typical xmcs customer isn’t in this particular discussion on Chinertown.

Also makes me question why I engage so much here, as I don’t sell frames, parts, nor get any commission on xmcs sales. I’m - as a xmcs partner - just here because I am very much passionate of the product. I ride our GRT as often as I can. Every time I get of the bike I can’t wait for my next gravel adventure.

But I take all your feedback to personal ;-). In the end, the branding is now clarified. Don’t like it? Send Peter a message.

In the meantime I will focus on my own customers.

Bobinski

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #362 on: August 19, 2026, 02:32:00 AM »
I completely agree.

Hence why we worked on a new (high end) brand identity. There is a complete branding book, linking all Xmcs core principles and values to the AERYS concept. It was much more than a name, it was a lot of hard work and iterations to position Xmcs brand identity.

It was validated in the trademark database, trademark was filed, until just prior to the acceptance deadline a competitor notified us of his objection because he felt the name was too similar to a (non racing) bike range of his.

You cannot imagine how disappointing it was to see all these months of hard work, creativity and passion to be put down the drain with one letter.

That happened late, so not a lot of time to go through the same process again before the release pf the new frames. There needs to be something in terms of branding with the go live. There now is, and there are multiple options.

Perhaps in the future there will be something else like Aerys as a proper evocative high end brand identity, but exactly as you say: xmcs cannot keep on changing these things.

Simultaneously the half cut logo is a sales banger. GRT and VRT frames are selling incredibly well. Telling me the typical xmcs customer isn’t in this particular discussion on Chinertown.

Also makes me question why I engage so much here, as I don’t sell frames, parts, nor get any commission on xmcs sales. I’m - as a xmcs partner - just here because I am very much passionate of the product. I ride our GRT as often as I can. Every time I get of the bike I can’t wait for my next gravel adventure.

But I take all your feedback to personal ;-). In the end, the branding is now clarified. Don’t like it? Send Peter a message.

In the meantime I will focus on my own customers.

Thanks for all your help on this forum and WW. I have told Peter you are a great ambassador for the brand. If I end up getting a VRT to add to my soon to arrive GRT I may pop over the channel to buy from you and then ride back- that should deal with the duty risk.
Let us know when you source internal storage bags for the GRT.

Requiem84

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #363 on: August 19, 2026, 02:39:19 AM »
Thanks!

No need to feel sorry for me though. We have some very cool projects on the way, including a build for a very good (winning) Belgian gravel/beach racer, and on top of that we’re working on a Traka limited edition that will be hand-painted in the Netherlands.

The anticipation and research for that limited edition is already sooooo much fun.

On top of that the whole complete bike business shouldn’t get too crazy big either, I still have a great 40 hour regular job 🤓.

tmhbrl

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #364 on: August 19, 2026, 02:44:47 AM »
And another logo option released today.

it all comes down to a matter of taste.

my opinion: In an age of almost unlimited possibilities with AI, a logo like this is absolutely unacceptable  ;)

bosborus

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #365 on: August 19, 2026, 03:08:41 AM »
I completely agree.

Hence why we worked on a new (high end) brand identity. There is a complete branding book, linking all Xmcs core principles and values to the AERYS concept. It was much more than a name, it was a lot of hard work and iterations to position Xmcs brand identity.

It was validated in the trademark database, trademark was filed, until just prior to the acceptance deadline a competitor notified us of his objection because he felt the name was too similar to a (non racing) bike range of his.

You cannot imagine how disappointing it was to see all these months of hard work, creativity and passion to be put down the drain with one letter.

That happened late, so not a lot of time to go through the same process again before the release pf the new frames. There needs to be something in terms of branding with the go live. There now is, and there are multiple options.

Perhaps in the future there will be something else like Aerys as a proper evocative high end brand identity, but exactly as you say: xmcs cannot keep on changing these things.

Simultaneously the half cut logo is a sales banger. GRT and VRT frames are selling incredibly well. Telling me the typical xmcs customer isn’t in this particular discussion on Chinertown.

Also makes me question why I engage so much here, as I don’t sell frames, parts, nor get any commission on xmcs sales. I’m - as a xmcs partner - just here because I am very much passionate of the product. I ride our GRT as often as I can. Every time I get of the bike I can’t wait for my next gravel adventure.

But I take all your feedback to personal ;-). In the end, the branding is now clarified. Don’t like it? Send Peter a message.

In the meantime I will focus on my own customers.

I totally understand that you’re working more in an advisory role for Peter/Xmcs, and my opinion wasn’t meant as feedback directed at you personally. And when you’ve put so much heart and soul into this major rebranding project, I can definitely understand the frustration if it falls through at the last minute.

I’ve already shared my thoughts with Peter, and I hope that—perhaps along with the UCI approvals—there will be a final announcement regarding the branding.

But it’s great to hear that there are already many buyers and that you’re having success with your custom bike build service.

hubba

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #366 on: August 19, 2026, 08:10:33 AM »
I think the logo on the Revenger looks better than what is offered for GRT on the website now. I've asked if they can use that. Still not quite what I'm looking for need to try some different font colors.
« Last Edit: August 19, 2026, 08:25:44 AM by hubba »

Bobinski

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #367 on: August 19, 2026, 09:35:31 AM »
The storage door is 4x13cm. Deepest point (middle of frame) is 5cm high.

My Cycplus AS2 Pro fits flat, but is tricky to get out then. So I use a pouch for a gravel tubolito, tire levers, multitool and dynaplug set. Fits perfectly. Pump I carry in the Apidura Race frame.

I forgot to ask how you were getting on with the Apidura frame bags? Top bag looks ideal sise. Fidlock or magnetic attachment for the inframe bag would be golden and avoid marking the headtube/frame.

frewster

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #368 on: August 19, 2026, 11:36:11 AM »
it all comes down to a matter of taste.

my opinion: In an age of almost unlimited possibilities with AI, a logo like this is absolutely unacceptable  ;)

It does come down to taste. Some people are oddly enthusiastic about AI slop.

Requiem84

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #369 on: August 19, 2026, 12:11:46 PM »
I forgot to ask how you were getting on with the Apidura frame bags? Top bag looks ideal sise. Fidlock or magnetic attachment for the inframe bag would be golden and avoid marking the headtube/frame.

Works a charm for me.

eddiecycle

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #370 on: August 21, 2026, 12:34:55 PM »
my opinion: In an age of almost unlimited possibilities with AI, a logo like this is absolutely unacceptable  ;)

IMO any logo made with AI is completely unacceptable

hubba

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #371 on: August 22, 2026, 02:50:28 AM »
IMO any logo made with AI is completely unacceptable

I don't care if a logo is made with AI as long as it looks good.

I asked if I can have a different logo they just pointed me to the options on the website. Also my 2x clearance question was ignored. I guess I have to search for a different frame. I'm sure they would sell a lot more of these if they had better design.
« Last Edit: August 22, 2026, 05:28:59 AM by hubba »

ElRey

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #372 on: August 28, 2026, 01:45:12 AM »

Hi - could you say which pouch you use / where it can be bought from? Or otherwise the dimensions of it?

Cheers

I agree and have mentioned the same. Any complete bike that I sell will always come with a pouch.

I will arrange the pouches myself for now.

Requiem84

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #373 on: August 28, 2026, 02:00:18 AM »
If you search Alixpress for ‘frame storage bag’ or ‘frame storage pouch’ you get all the options. It’s a few euro’s.

Bobinski

Re: XMCS: 2026 Aero Gravel bike
« Reply #374 on: August 28, 2026, 02:29:54 AM »
I don't care if a logo is made with AI as long as it looks good.

I asked if I can have a different logo they just pointed me to the options on the website. Also my 2x clearance question was ignored. I guess I have to search for a different frame. I'm sure they would sell a lot more of these if they had better design.

How important is a logo to you? While i would like to advertise the XCMS brand I have chosen to have no logo. My current frameset is almost logo free I am used to it.Those colours you have there are very close to mine. Once mine is done i will post a picture here.