Spect Strada

[pecampbe]

Wow,
From the Tieba post it sound likes they are months and months away from getting legit frames in people's hands. Guess I will pass on the Strada for now.

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Well, that are not good news and again some new information i dont got directly from them. I ordered the Mira end of mai and was told 45 days, so we will see, how it turns out...
What is more of a concern of mine, they changed now 3 times the geometry charts (mainly stack/reach) without telling me
1. Version from their pdf
2. Version from the product page on Cyclegears
3. Version from the product page on Ccache

Managed to switch my order to 48 instead of 51, because i benefited from the changes and the 48 is at least on paper now a better fit for me. But yeah, not good and dont know what to expect and what is the final geometry

But yeah, i still have some hope left and so far i profited from the geo change, if it is true

Hope you could get the right frame for you buddy, as a Chinese I ofc want to be proud of national brands, but for those black listed brands, I can not keep the words in my mouth, I think telling the info I know is more important. So if we make the info gap smaller and you could make better decision.

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Wow,
From the Tieba post it sound likes they are months and months away from getting legit frames in people's hands. Guess I will pass on the Strada for now.

Officially they already made a statement for delaying the delivery of new frames, just today we got the news LMAO, so you could believe in SPECT or think about my info.

[meysow]

So, if I get it right, some chinese brand have a really bad reputation on the domestic market, including SPEC (and winspace, per the other thread).
I know it's slightly off topic, but could you list the chinese brands that have good reputation on the domestic market ?

[alfiomotrambo]

So, if I get it right, some chinese brand have a really bad reputation on the domestic market, including SPEC (and winspace, per the other thread).
I know it's slightly off topic, but could you list the chinese brands that have good reputation on the domestic market ?

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[Chineseweaklegrider]

So, if I get it right, some chinese brand have a really bad reputation on the domestic market, including SPEC (and winspace, per the other thread).
I know it's slightly off topic, but could you list the chinese brands that have good reputation on the domestic market ?

Sure, the answer is quite simple,
Currently, TIRE 1:XDS (X LAB), PARUDS, QUICK(maybe?)
Like 3 years ago, XDS is not the same as now, because they became the sponsor of ASTANA, and they got rid of "XDS" 3 words instead of X LAB, XDS here represnts the child bikes and cheap bike(AD350), after X LAB, everthing change, absolutely TOP 1 brand in China.
PARUDS is one of the biggest manufacturers in CHINA, no doubt.
QUICK is very special, they were one of the manufacturers for WINSPACE and many many famous brands. But they do not have professional PR team or marketing team.
They are running brand with factory mindset. But still better than those INCOLOR, SEKA, X SOON, etc.
All the other brands, our opinion is if they do not sell frames for more than 2200USD or 3000USD, we will give them a shot to try, but for 2200USD or 3000USD, bruh, let them go to hell, or let the rich people take care of these brands.
X SOON is from my city Hangzhou, no real customers buying this brand, only the famous celebrity cyclists ride it because they got the frames for free.
Now XSOON is closed, they may change the name and drop a new brand next year lol.
In general, I can not really recommend, the only concern is the price, XLAB, PARUDS, bikes with correct price, but other brands, price too high, even QUICK PRO, ARONE, ERONE, now in China the frame price is like 1200USD, still too high. If you like QUICK PRO, its fine.

[RobinRolling]

Hope you could get the right frame for you buddy, as a Chinese I ofc want to be proud of national brands, but for those black listed brands, I can not keep the words in my mouth, I think telling the info I know is more important. So if we make the info gap smaller and you could make better decision.

Yeah 100%, thats why i try to share my experience also. It is quite funny that the bike is to stiff, normally it is not enough stiff but anyway. I was already told beginning of july, so we will see, what happens in a few weeks and if there is any progress or something else

[meysow]

All the other brands, our opinion is if they do not sell frames for more than 2200USD or 3000USD, we will give them a shot to try, but for 2200USD or 3000USD, bruh, let them go to hell, or let the rich people take care of these brands.

Thanks for your answer. Just one last thing and I'll stop the Off topic.
I do agree with you concerning this part and I guess this is why we are on this forum in the first place. You mentioned the high prices brands but what about the reputation of the other side of the spectrum, the companies that actually provides frames that are "affordable", like Velobuild, lightcarbon, hongfu, mondince, spcycle, carbonda, bxt, tideace and so on ?

[BigT]

Sure, the answer is quite simple,
Currently, TIRE 1:XDS (X LAB), PARUDS, QUICK(maybe?)
Like 3 years ago, XDS is not the same as now, because they became the sponsor of ASTANA, and they got rid of "XDS" 3 words instead of X LAB, XDS here represnts the child bikes and cheap bike(AD350), after X LAB, everthing change, absolutely TOP 1 brand in China.
PARUDS is one of the biggest manufacturers in CHINA, no doubt.
QUICK is very special, they were one of the manufacturers for WINSPACE and many many famous brands. But they do not have professional PR team or marketing team.
They are running brand with factory mindset. But still better than those INCOLOR, SEKA, X SOON, etc.
All the other brands, our opinion is if they do not sell frames for more than 2200USD or 3000USD, we will give them a shot to try, but for 2200USD or 3000USD, bruh, let them go to hell, or let the rich people take care of these brands.
X SOON is from my city Hangzhou, no real customers buying this brand, only the famous celebrity cyclists ride it because they got the frames for free.
Now XSOON is closed, they may change the name and drop a new brand next year lol.
In general, I can not really recommend, the only concern is the price, XLAB, PARUDS, bikes with correct price, but other brands, price too high, even QUICK PRO, ARONE, ERONE, now in China the frame price is like 1200USD, still too high. If you like QUICK PRO, its fine.

Can you say anything about CAMP bikes?

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Thanks for your answer. Just one last thing and I'll stop the Off topic.
I do agree with you concerning this part and I guess this is why we are on this forum in the first place. You mentioned the high prices brands but what about the reputation of the other side of the spectrum, the companies that actually provides frames that are "affordable", like Velobuild, lightcarbon, hongfu, mondince, spcycle, carbonda, bxt, tideace and so on ?

Hi, thanks for trusting, I don’t really know too much about those cheap price brands too much, lightcarbon became famous for they had a post for some PRO team using their frames but with no UCI sticker, later on the news update as the team only using LIGHTCARBON frames in practice, and the team riders dont think it’s as good as big name brands, so kind of a clown action.
Carbonda is very funny, because I used to look for gravel frames 3 years ago, carbonda is the branch brand of QUICK PRO, only for overseas, so when my friends bought carbonda 696, he paid in CNY but with USD currency, lmao.

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Can you say anything about CAMP bikes?

CAMP is very popular here, one of my close friends has a ACE7? He loves it, with 7170 groupset, it’s like a smaller XDS, also they sponsored
many teams here, I never rode it before but those around me give it a good rate. Same, if you think the price is right, no problem at all, because CAMP is a standard brand, they have pretty much offline shops. Quality is not a concern to me.
Btw most popular electronic group set is 7170, because there are many many unofficial parts from the factory, for whole set of 7170 without disc brake is 4000rmb about 600$

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Yeah 100%, thats why i try to share my experience also. It is quite funny that the bike is to stiff, normally it is not enough stiff but anyway. I was already told beginning of july, so we will see, what happens in a few weeks and if there is any progress or something else

Hi buddy, yes sure, sometimes those bike companies we don’t really know, because some of them are more focusing on European, American markets, so I only recognize some names. And we need to check review from foreign riders. Looking forward yours too!

[7hecouchpotato]

Sure, the answer is quite simple,
Currently, TIRE 1:XDS (X LAB), PARUDS, QUICK(maybe?)
Like 3 years ago, XDS is not the same as now, because they became the sponsor of ASTANA, and they got rid of "XDS" 3 words instead of X LAB, XDS here represnts the child bikes and cheap bike(AD350), after X LAB, everthing change, absolutely TOP 1 brand in China.
PARUDS is one of the biggest manufacturers in CHINA, no doubt.
QUICK is very special, they were one of the manufacturers for WINSPACE and many many famous brands. But they do not have professional PR team or marketing team.
They are running brand with factory mindset. But still better than those INCOLOR, SEKA, X SOON, etc.
All the other brands, our opinion is if they do not sell frames for more than 2200USD or 3000USD, we will give them a shot to try, but for 2200USD or 3000USD, bruh, let them go to hell, or let the rich people take care of these brands.
X SOON is from my city Hangzhou, no real customers buying this brand, only the famous celebrity cyclists ride it because they got the frames for free.
Now XSOON is closed, they may change the name and drop a new brand next year lol.
In general, I can not really recommend, the only concern is the price, XLAB, PARUDS, bikes with correct price, but other brands, price too high, even QUICK PRO, ARONE, ERONE, now in China the frame price is like 1200USD, still too high. If you like QUICK PRO, its fine.

Thanks for sharing your local knowledge. Have you heard of Seraph or Tantan? Any good?

[Chineseweaklegrider]

Thanks for sharing your local knowledge. Have you heard of Seraph or Tantan? Any good?

Hi, tbh i just knew this seraph or Tantan brand from here, and i asked around, checked on Chinese internet, not really enough information about this brand, many riders don’t recognize it, even on xiaohongshu or bilibili, there are just few few posts and videos about this brand. Most in 2022, 2024. I see the price is similar as TFSA, but you could find TFSA here everywhere in high schools or colleges. So i can not really say anything about Tantan/Seraph, sorry buddy.

[Bike.Man]

I’m so glad I didn’t pre-order, because I absolutely don’t like what is now supposed to be the final version; I find it downright brazen to try and give customers who have already placed and paid for their orders a modified product instead 😠


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“Here’s a quick update for all our loyal shareholders—sorry for the long wait! After exhibiting at the Shanghai show, we gathered a ton of valuable feedback, went through several rounds of revisions, and even completely 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐡𝐚𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧𝐬 𝐦𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐢𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬. Now, we’re finally ready to show you the latest frame renderings. Please note that the final mass-production units will match these renderings exactly.

The models shown are without handlebars. The Strada is shown in size 52, and the Mira in size 51.
Important: 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐞𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐲 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐡 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐥𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐦𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐬 𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬.

Strada Updates:
While maintaining all its core specs—ultra-lightweight construction, UDH compatibility, T47 bottom bracket, etc.—𝐰𝐞’𝐯𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐚𝐩𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐥𝐨𝐰.  𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐥𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐦𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐧, 𝐬𝐥𝐞𝐞𝐤 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞. We've specifically addressed the widely discussed feedback regarding top tube smoothness and fork proportion, and 𝐰𝐞’𝐯𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐞𝐝 𝐚 𝐧𝐞𝐰 𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐩𝐩𝐞𝐝 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞 𝐝𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐟𝐮𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐯𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐢𝐜𝐬.

Mira Updates:
Similarly, while preserving all the original specifications, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐞𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐭𝐫𝐲 𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐲𝐬 𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐨𝐮𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐝. We,ve optimized the real-world riding experience by 𝐥𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐱𝐜𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐭𝐮𝐛𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐨𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝-𝐧𝐞𝐰, 𝐥𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫-𝐝𝐫𝐚𝐠 𝐬𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐭.  𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐝 "𝐚𝐰𝐤𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐠𝐚𝐩 𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐤 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧," 𝐰𝐞,𝐯𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐦𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐚 𝐦𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐮𝐞 and can assure you it will not be present in the final production models.

As we approach the delivery date, we will continue to provide regular updates on manufacturing progress, production records, and shipping standards. Thank you all for your unwavering support! We've been quiet recently because we didn't feel we had a complete product to present until now. As a new brand stepping into the public eye, we want to take the time to meticulously polish our products and unveil them in their best possible form. We hope to live up to every shareholder's expectations!“

*Images and Infos from aerofor