32 inch wheel frames?

[repoman]

Seems like this is the new thing that will be pushed until it becomes the norm. Are there any 32" gravel or road racing frames starting to become available by OEM yet?

[Alancik123]

I'd wait a bit until manufacturers find the sweet spot of geometries for these wheels. Unless you're looking for newest, shiniest toy as soon as it is released, there's no china frame that would clear 32" wheels yet.

[Da11as]

Unless you are 185+ cm it is too early to get into 32 IMO. Otherwise expect the frame to be stupidly harsh to ride and with sloppy geometry.

[ayjay]

Seems we already have first prototype od 32 from tantan.

[ayjay]

and there is geometry

[RiP]

and there is geometry

Key elements from this schematic:

• It's an "M" size: 410mm Reach, 621.9mm Stack, 588.3mm TT and 490mm ST;
• Boost hub spacing: 110x15mm front and 148x12mm rear;
• 2.4 inch tire clearance;
• T47 inboard BB (86mm);
• 68.5º HTA, 74º STA;
• 1112.2mm wheelbase, 455mm chainstays;
• frame/downtube storage, front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door;
• there's a reference to "SRAM 42T", which I assume is the max chainring size, but not sure if it's for the regular or wide crank...

From the shape of this frame, it seems to me it's an adapted 32er convertion/streched version of the Tantan GR267/Mondince FM376 700c gravel frame, also considering the same solution for the front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door...


UPDATE: the frame is an M, not an L.

[MTB-Addicted]

Curious to know the weight..

[RiP]

Curious to know the weight..

I’d place it around the 1400g mark…

[dvisschedyk]

Key elements from this schematic:

• should be an L size equivalent: 410mm Reach, 621.9mm Stack, 588.3mm TT and 490mm ST;
• Boost hub spacing: 110x15mm front and 148x12mm rear;
• 2.4 inch tire clearance;
• T47 inboard BB (86mm);
• 68.5º HTA, 74º STA;
• 1112.2mm wheelbase, 455mm chainstays;
• frame/downtube storage, front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door;
• there's a reference to "SRAM 42T", which I assume is the max chainring size, but not sure if it's for the regular or wide crank...

This isn't that far off the geometry of my size large Lauf True Grit, which is interesting.  It has a more relaxed headtube (70.5 vs 68.5) but the seat tube goes from 72.5 to 74, so it kind of balances out.

[RiP]

Key elements from this schematic:

• should be an L size equivalent: 410mm Reach, 621.9mm Stack, 588.3mm TT and 490mm ST;
• Boost hub spacing: 110x15mm front and 148x12mm rear;
• 2.4 inch tire clearance;
• T47 inboard BB (86mm);
• 68.5º HTA, 74º STA;
• 1112.2mm wheelbase, 455mm chainstays;
• frame/downtube storage, front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door;
• there's a reference to "SRAM 42T", which I assume is the max chainring size, but not sure if it's for the regular or wide crank...

From the shape of this frame, it seems to me it's an adapted 32er convertion/streched version of the Tantan GR267/Mondince FM376 700c gravel frame, also considering the same solution for the front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door...

So, I contacted TanTan bikes about this frame and their response was that, as expected, this model is still in the mold-making stage and the release date has not yet been announced.

[dvisschedyk]

The SpCycle that they started a new thread with seems to have the exact same dimensions as the TanTan, and look the same.  So I assume it's the same mold. 

[dedge]

Key elements from this schematic:

• It's an "M" size: 410mm Reach, 621.9mm Stack, 588.3mm TT and 490mm ST;
• Boost hub spacing: 110x15mm front and 148x12mm rear;
• 2.4 inch tire clearance;
• T47 inboard BB (86mm);
• 68.5º HTA, 74º STA;
• 1112.2mm wheelbase, 455mm chainstays;
• frame/downtube storage, front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door;
• there's a reference to "SRAM 42T", which I assume is the max chainring size, but not sure if it's for the regular or wide crank...

From the shape of this frame, it seems to me it's an adapted 32er convertion/streched version of the Tantan GR267/Mondince FM376 700c gravel frame, also considering the same solution for the front bottle mounted on the frame, above the door...


UPDATE: the frame is an M, not an L.

That makes it a very long bike, if I look at the SPcycle geometry sheet, the Small is longer than most 54cm frames, approximately 20mm longer on top tube alone, and Stack is crazy high too.
I cannot figure how so many experienced chinese frame makers can miss a geometry so often. It is crazy to see this amount of frames that have a key figure so wrong. I mean, in doubt just copy paste the best selling frame geometry of the big brands and that’s all!

[JackWatts]

There is no way to make the reach any shorter, short of inducing a comical level of wheel flop, and you can only make stack so low. Unless you resort to some much more advanced trickery (mounting the handlebar to the fork, for instance), this is really it. You can't make the front center much shorter or head tube smaller.

Personally I think the reach is fine. I'm 174cm, 81.5cm inseam and the smallest size would work for me, but I think I'm about the limit; any shorter and they're going to be compromises. A -17 90mm stem and I could duplicate my current position.

The lost opportunity is the seat tube angle. A steeper setup would make the necessary reach a lot more tolerable for a lot of people. It should be closer to 76 degrees, steeper in the larger sizes, just like XC bikes these days.

[dedge]

My concern was more about the stack than the reach.
With the trail you will obtain I suppose it is better to have a shorter stem anyway.
But the high stack is more problematic, and it is difficult to find a cockpit that will put you low enough. The 127mm head tube is really too high. I suppose that the very low downtube storage door has moved up the bottle cage inserts, and as a consequence the top tube had to be pushed up to make room for a big bottle. For me it is not ideal. I prefer having the compromise of a bottle cage mounted on the door.

[dvisschedyk]

It doesn't appear to be the classic race geometry, but it looks pretty similar to what Cam Jones rode at Unbound with a "slammed 100mm Syncros alloy stem" according to BikeRumor. 

As a tall older guy with 45 year old flexibility that doesn't really race a higher stack isn't the end of the world for me.