New Gravel Frame Ican Graro

Started by Donramon94, February 24, 2024, 03:26:43 AM

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Peter_PL

Quote from: Zebomat on September 30, 2026, 10:55:01 AM
Which chainring did you end up using here? Looks cool.

its polish product - ALUGEAR Aero Round 44T

oker_s

Tried out Tufo Thundero 48mm which are measuring 49mm on my rim. Plenty of Space on Fork an Seattubes...Only Place which is getting a bit closer is chainstays with about 5-6mm in each side...but this should be fine!

so the official tire width is a bit pessimistic and up 50mm should be fine

Peter_PL

Quote from: oker_s on October 02, 2026, 09:54:58 AM
Tried out Tufo Thundero 48mm which are measuring 49mm on my rim. Plenty of Space on Fork an Seattubes...Only Place which is getting a bit closer is chainstays with about 5-6mm in each side...but this should be fine!

so the official tire width is a bit pessimistic and up 50mm should be fine
I have Caracal Race tires and they measure 50.8 mm on these wheels (32IW)
I'm planning to put Thunder Burt 2.1 on for the autumn period. I don't ride in the mud anyway, and when I measured, there was still room. I also measured Dubnital 2.0, but they're again tall like MTB tires and so-so. Schwalbe is about 53mm on these wheels.

Zebomat

#168
Whats the max torque for the compression plug/expander  in the steerer tube?
The ican youtube channel mechanic torqued it to 14 nm.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Bb5xpq8Zop8

crazyravr

Custom painted tiny Graro for the wife... ordered. Narrow bar with short reach for the Graro... ordered from Ulicyc.
Now trying to decide GRX 817 or SRAM XPLR.

patliean1

Hi All!

The final step to complete my Graro gravel build is also the only pain point: Chainring compatibility. I'm running Sram E1 XPLR 13p.

I'm stupid and didn't read the website. My Sram aero/road 50t 1x chainring doesn't clear the chainstay. So I bought a Wolf Tooth 46t chainring thinking that would solve the issue. It did not. So now I just wasted $100  :'(

I read through this thread yet I'm still confused. Is it actually possible run a 46t chainring? Ican says 42t max for 1x but some folks still had issues with clearance?
What if I just buy a Sram XPLR/DUB-Wide crank arm set. Would that be enough to clear the 46t chainring with the proper spacers? Sram says 2.5mm on the non-drive side, and 5.5mm on the drive side.

Thanks in advanced

aneyugn

Quote from: patliean1 on November 03, 2026, 06:40:36 PMHi All!

The final step to complete my Graro gravel build is also the only pain point: Chainring compatibility. I'm running Sram E1 XPLR 13p.

I'm stupid and didn't read the website. My Sram aero/road 50t 1x chainring doesn't clear the chainstay. So I bought a Wolf Tooth 46t chainring thinking that would solve the issue. It did not. So now I just wasted $100  :'(

I read through this thread yet I'm still confused. Is it actually possible run a 46t chainring? Ican says 42t max for 1x but some folks still had issues with clearance?
What if I just buy a Sram XPLR/DUB-Wide crank arm set. Would that be enough to clear the 46t chainring with the proper spacers? Sram says 2.5mm on the non-drive side, and 5.5mm on the drive side.

Thanks in advanced

Hi,

I rode the Graro for quite some time until a car hit me while descending a hill, sendinf me to the emergency room a few months ago. Anyway.

Initially, I was able to fit a 46T chainring with a 0mm offset, but I had to use a spacer to prevent it from rubbing against the chainstay. The chainline wasn't ideal, and the clearance was very tight. There was probably 2-3mm between the chainring and the frame. So I switched to a 42T chainring for a peace of mind.

Also, Ican said that the max tyre clearance is 45mm, but you can actually fit 50mm without any issues. I measured my tyres at an actual 52mm. However, I wouldn't recommend going any wider

patliean1

Quote from: aneyugn on November 04, 2026, 05:12:47 PMHi,

I rode the Graro for quite some time until a car hit me while descending a hill, sendinf me to the emergency room a few months ago. Anyway.

Initially, I was able to fit a 46T chainring with a 0mm offset, but I had to use a spacer to prevent it from rubbing against the chainstay. The chainline wasn't ideal, and the clearance was very tight. There was probably 2-3mm between the chainring and the frame. So I switched to a 42T chainring for a peace of mind.

Also, Ican said that the max tyre clearance is 45mm, but you can actually fit 50mm without any issues. I measured my tyres at an actual 52mm. However, I wouldn't recommend going any wider

Hope you made a full recovery kind sir...

So today I was able to buy a Sram 40t x-sync chainring for $35 locally. Obviously it fits no problems with 0mm offset. Bummed I can't use my other larger chainrings that integrate a power meter though. But I will be wearing road shoes most of the time, so my set of Magene PM pedals will be just fine.

Using a 10-46 XPLR 13 speed cassette. No where will I ever need that 40x46 gear. Thankfully that 40x10 gear is equal to Shimano 52x13 which is good for 32-33mph at like 100 RPM. Both extreme ends of the gear range are such extremely small use cases.

That said, I think I will eventually swap in a regular Sram Force road derailleur and use a standard 10-30t or 10-33t cassette. This way I will have far more usable gears with the 40t crank up front.

Also my Specialized Pathfinder 45s stretch to 47.5mm at the rim. Ascent Big Chungus wheels  ;D 
Plenty of clearance.

aneyugn

Quote from: patliean1 on November 04, 2026, 05:34:12 PMHope you made a full recovery kind sir...

So today I was able to buy a Sram 40t x-sync chainring for $35 locally. Obviously it fits no problems with 0mm offset. Bummed I can't use my other larger chainrings that integrate a power meter though. But I will be wearing road shoes most of the time, so my set of Magene PM pedals will be just fine.

Using a 10-46 XPLR 13 speed cassette. No where will I ever need that 40x46 gear. Thankfully that 40x10 gear is equal to Shimano 52x13 which is good for 32-33mph at like 100 RPM. Both extreme ends of the gear range are such extremely small use cases.

That said, I think I will eventually swap in a regular Sram Force road derailleur and use a standard 10-30t or 10-33t cassette. This way I will have far more usable gears with the 40t crank up front.

Also my Specialized Pathfinder 45s stretch to 47.5mm at the rim. Ascent Big Chungus wheels  ;D 
Plenty of clearance.

It's a bit long recovery, but now I can "walk" a little, it is on a good way!

It really depends on the kind of terrain you plan to ride, but for sure a 40x46 gear you'll be climbing trees! I think you might be a little limited on flat roads if speed is your main priority.

Using a 10-51 XTR cassette, with 42T chainring, it was a versatile setup. However I would have liked a bigger chainring for flat road and smoother gravel sections.

Either way, you're going to love riding this bike!
Can't wait to see your final build :)

patliean1

Quick bike fit ride around the block before it sadly started raining. I have a set Force E1 XPLR/Wide crank arms arriving Saturday. That should open the door to use a slightly larger chainring.

47mm wide measured tires at 30 psi is sublime. At least on my residential street.

crazyravr

Quote from: patliean1 on November 05, 2026, 06:32:26 PMQuick bike fit ride around the block before it sadly started raining. I have a set Force E1 XPLR/Wide crank arms arriving Saturday. That should open the door to use a slightly larger chainring.

47mm wide measured tires at 30 psi is sublime. At least on my residential street.

Hey which BB did you end up using here? Im debating between going with SRAM or something else....

oker_s

also riding 44 and 46 chainring with one mm spacer...so chainline is a litte bit off..i hope shimano will start to sell the 44 and 46 chainring they released in beginning of 2026. My passquest chainring is quite loud in the small gears(big rings on casette) and i dont know if its the bad chainline or the chainring

tire is 50mm with enough space