Mondince FM366 aero gravel bike with 57mm of tire clearance

[warthog]

Here is the geochart of all sizes.

Short and high. No good for me.

[Buffon_bj]

Absolutely atrocious geometry compared to the inspired FM316. If only it had the tyre clearance, it would be the perfect gravel bike...

[trogger78]

I just reached out to TanTan because they postetd two frames with 57mm tyre clearence, which were identical to those here. But they wrote me that their frame will be different to the FM366. But they wont send me the geochart for theirs.

[xcelrec]

Geometry chart that was posted last page is actually what the frame is supposed to look like. At least that what the designers said that got back to whoever is doing the communications via WhatsApp. No clue for what kind of rider this is designed with reach numbers like this. Guess not for me lol. 😅

[Jarkko2410]

Now on the website

https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366#size-chart

[RiP]

I can't make any sense out of those Reach numbers...

For my M size, I'd need a 130mm or 140mm stem, depending on the handlebar reach!

[ProtonClimber]

Why is there no fm356 on the website yet?

[xcelrec]

Why is there no fm356 on the website yet?

Still in prototyping phase.

[RiP]

Now on the website

https://www.mondincecycle.com/product/china-new-released-max-57mm-tire-carbon-aero-gravel-bike-frame-fm366#size-chart

This one already has 5 positive reviews, all dated from yesterday, June 11! 

[RiP]

Taken from the frame description that product page:

The geometry is purpose-built for adventure: a sloping top tube (B) and extended reach (M) provide a stable, confident riding position, ...

Extended reach?!? 

[Chiyou]

Eventually, someone at Mondince will wake up and realize that increasing reach by 1mm for sizes XS through L wasn't what they intended to do. (Okay, technically the increase is 2mm for size L.)

The geometry chart is clearly wrong but for whatever reason they insisted on publishing it anyways.
(Reach size XS / S / M / L: 363 / 364 / 365 / 367mm)

[wintermute]

I just can't get my head around those geometry charts. Obviously, the geometry is wrong and that isn't the reach. But I don't think they understand how important getting that right is. I mean the XMCS aero gravel bike must fit more than a 44t front ring but that's what everyone thinks right now and that will have cost them hundreds of preorders.

There is so much good coming from OEMs in china but these things really demonstrate that the market just isn't mature and you still need to be a really canny buyer to make the most of it. Sometimes they strike gold e.g. the GR201 (of many sorts).

Sometimes they don't know what shape a bike should be.

[FabianBe]

I'm coming back to check the forum almost daily to see if one of the new 57mm tire clearance frames has an updated geometry chart because part of me apparently refuses to accept that the geometry charts are correct. Uber short reach here, super high BB there,... they all seem to have a flaw at least for what I (and I'd say the majority of riders) am looking for. The only ones so far that get close are the XMCS aero gravel (but front chainring clearance is a concern and price is more than I'd expect for a factory direct chinese frame, even if more premium) and the SP cycle G028 (but it's SP cycles and QC concerns are real ((look at that fork that was posted on that thread)).

I'm starting to believe that I'm the problem here.

[theslowesttwitch]

This one already has 5 positive reviews, all dated from yesterday, June 11! 

yeah they're definitely faking the reviews. no one could have built up an FM366 that fast, let alone determined it "saved them 12 watts" lol. mondince man, wtf

[Samuel BMR]

Correct me if I’m wrong but it does have an AERO SEATPOST right?

Not the round 27.2
So in that regard it is different from SPCYCLE’s 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame, right?

Also the « wind eye » thingy but anyway at 1050g claimed and with edgy aero features, it might be the sexiest 57mm tire clearance Gravel frame out there