Mondince FM366 aero gravel bike with 57mm of tire clearance

[lidation]

This Mondince FM366 checked all the boxes for me, except for the seatpost. I need to put a dropper post.

[anqry]

Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it. I got photos today and Mondince confirmed it's a frame built on a "new" geo.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers. 



Did some AI "editing". I guess it does look better with less spacers and in a different paint scheme?..



EDIT

It is NOT actually a new geo.

[emilioea]

Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers. 

It indeed looks tall and short. I guess that's a prototype from the old geo. The new geo is clearly longer.

[anqry]

It indeed looks tall and short. I guess that's a prototype from the old geo. The new geo is clearly longer.

It's a frame built on a new geo confirmed to me today by Mondince through Whatsapp. I also thought it might be prototype frame when I saw the pictures, but it seems not. It should look longer, right?
I updated my earlier post to include info about the geo.

[maxilon]

Do you have a link to these bikes or frame sets?

[emilioea]

It's a frame built on a new geo confirmed to me today by Mondince through Whatsapp. I also thought it might be prototype frame when I saw the pictures, but it seems not. It should look longer, right?
I updated my earlier post to include info about the geo.

Intersting. I've tried some image measuring tools, and I get somewhat close numbers to the new geometry (although I wouldn't call my quick method very precise  ), so I guess my eyes were deceiving me.

[anqry]

Intersting. I've tried some image measuring tools, and I get somewhat close numbers to the new geometry (although I wouldn't call my quick method very precise  ), so I guess my eyes were deceiving me.

After a few more messages with Mondince trying to clarify what's up with that frame, it seems that your eyes are fine and it is NOT actually a new geo frame, quote: "It is the old geometry. But the frame is the same shape", even though a few messages back they have just said that "This is the new geometry" 
It's beyond me why would they even send photos of the prototype frame at this point and add to the confusion. I guess some things just get lost in translation or I am just not used dealing with Chinese vendors.
They said size M is already made so I'm trying to get the actual photos.

[Vesryn]

Here is FM366 in size M with 2.25" tyres. Would probably fit 2.35" by the looks of it. I got photos today and Mondince confirmed it's a frame built on a "new" geo.
But am I being crazy or something about the frame looks off? It might be a visual illusion because of chimney worth of spacers, a paint choice, or just chunky tyres, but to me it looks short, tall and too front heavy.
It's most likely just me being too undecisive about the frameset I want, but I'd love to hear opinions from more established gravel enjoyers. 



Did some AI "editing". I guess it does look better with less spacers and in a different paint scheme?..



EDIT

It is NOT actually a new geo.

Have a look at how the handlebar "behaves" in this photo, it was done on x1 from the close distance, prefferably, you take photos of a bike from as far away as your optical zoom allows. This gives you a "flatter looking" bike.
In this case it looks like it is 500 or even 600 width handlebar.

I'll also add - I did a preorder, custom paint, lead time is 18 days. It's waiting time then.

[Le Duke]

I'd love to order this frame but I'm going to let someone else be a guinea pig for me. The inconsistencies re: geometry are quite worrisome.

[NB87]

I'm interested to see this one build up read about some first hand experience in quality and riding characteristics. The photo's from Mondince are not really helping them.. 

[RiP]

I'm also on the same boat, as I'm considering this frame among other 57mm tire gravel frames for my next build, but I need to see pictures of the final geo frame, mainly of a complete bike with it...

[Tucha]

I've asked Jack to send me some proper footage of the frame. The geometry stuff is now sorted, and the one on the website is the final one.



I think this video makes me almost sure about to place an order - looks bloody good IMHO.

[hubba]

How much forward offset do the STs on these frames have?

Trying to figure out the effective STA.

Does the offset matter when the angle is measured from the bb. The real angle of the seat tube must be even less steep. I considered this frame but it looks a bit too slack. Unless it's measured in some different way.

[Vesryn]

The frame looks great in that video, thanks for sharing! I’m hoping to get my "pre-shipping" video soon as well — mine was supposed to be sent out last week.

Looking at the specs, the geometry is actually surprisingly slack. That works perfectly for my setup, but it’s pretty funny that it’s marketed as an aero frame, which usually implies a much more aggressive, racey fit.

Edit: Just a quick heads-up from Jack for anyone interested: the downtube storage cover is 100% anodized aluminum. I was fully expecting plastic here, so it was a really pleasant surprise!

[kneeslider]

I am also not far away to give mondince my money.
Is meanwhile clear what the max chainring size will be?