New aero frame

[Thor_husvod]

Hello,

I am looking for a new frameset to switch things up a bit from my current setup.
Right now, I ride an Elves Falath Evo+ in size 54 and a 2021 Giant TCR Advanced SL in size S. The Giant fits me well (maybe a touch small), while the Elves is a bit too large. I am looking for a bike that is quite aero but versatile enough to replace both of my current bikes with just one (for road racing, cyclosportives, mountain trips, etc.). It is worth noting that I live in a rather rolling, punchy region with no major climbs (Brittany, France).

I really like the look of the Elves (much more than the TCR), so I would like to go for a frame with a distinct aero style, but I still want something snappy and responsive. For now, I have narrowed down my choice to:
 Seraph X70 or X71: I am leaning more towards the 71, but I am having a hard time seeing the difference between the two models.
 Lightcarbon LCRD-018D: But I am not a big fan of the frame shape.
 Lightcarbon LCRD-020D: I was quoted $1,280 shipped for this one.
 Avenger R8-RS
 Triaero A9
 XMCS VRT

I am a bit lost regarding the brand hierarchy and the different frame geometries. Which one do you think would be the best fit for me? Also, did I miss any frame that I should consider?
Thank you in advance

[FlorianS]

X70 looks like a Specialized Tarmac SL7, X71 is a Vactor Ostro V.A.M. replica frame.
The Lightcarbon LCRD-020D looks very interesting, although it's not quite ready yet iirc.
Did you take a look at the XMCS VRT yet? Looks quite similar to the Lightcarbon.

[Thor_husvod]

frames. I don't really mind them being replicas, but I assume that if the price is lower, the bikes might also be of lower quality compared to the Lightcarbon or VRT?
Yes, I had seen the VRT and forgot to add it to the list, of course. Especially since it seems to be priced around the same (or nearly the same) as the Lightcarbon.

[Ultramic]

For me, the VRT in gloss black with riser handlebar works out to be $2173 delivered. Whereas lightcarbon have quoted me $1050 for the LCR020 with the riser handlebar. That's double the cost.

[Bonus79]

X70 looks like a Specialized Tarmac SL7

No, the X70 frame is identical to the Spcycle R088 (which was released well before the X70) and does not resemble the Tarmac SL7; rather, it looks like the Tarmac SL8, except for the head tube and fork. 

[Bike.Man]

You should also take a look at the Voice Velo Echo

https://voicevelo.com/products/echo-aero-frame-%E2%80%93-engineered-for-speed

And feel free to get in touch with Dominik from https://thebikelab.pl/ 😉

[Thor_husvod]

For me, the VRT in gloss black with riser handlebar works out to be $2173 delivered. Whereas lightcarbon have quoted me $1050 for the LCR020 with the riser handlebar. That's double the cost.

That's true, I only looked at the price on the website and didn't notice that the handlebar and shipping costs weren't included. We are closer to €2,000 now, which is starting to be quite a budget.
As for the Lightcarbon, I was quoted $1,200 yesterday (including shipping and the handlebar). It remains my top choice, but I prefer to look around a bit to see what I can get for less and whether the extra investment is really worth it.

You should also take a look at the Voice Velo Echo

https://voicevelo.com/products/echo-aero-frame-%E2%80%93-engineered-for-speed

And feel free to get in touch with Dominik from https://thebikelab.pl/ 😉

Oh Nice, I’ll get in touch. What is the reputation of this brand? I don't know them at all, unlike the others which I had already heard of.

[Swatt]

That's true, I only looked at the price on the website and didn't notice that the handlebar and shipping costs weren't included. We are closer to €2,000 now, which is starting to be quite a budget.
As for the Lightcarbon, I was quoted $1,200 yesterday (including shipping and the handlebar). It remains my top choice, but I prefer to look around a bit to see what I can get for less and whether the extra investment is really worth it.
Oh Nice, I’ll get in touch. What is the reputation of this brand? I don't know them at all, unlike the others which I had already heard of.

LCR020, as far as I know, is not going to be available until much later in 2026. I think we are talking about late autumn.

QuickPro ER:One is a solid alternative to XMCS VRT (price is very similar).

[Bike.Man]

Oh Nice, I’ll get in touch. What is the reputation of this brand? I don't know them at all, unlike the others which I had already heard of.
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There’s a dedicated thread for the Voice Velo here on the forum, and I’d also take a look at the Kung Mach it makes a pretty cool impression too 👌

https://www.pandapodium.cc/post/kung-mach-aero-frameset-review/

[Fatbonzo]

Winspace M6 should be around 1800USD with discount codes
Quickpro ER:One roughly 2k USD

That's what xmcs is fighting against, but with the wind tunnel results it's possible

Lightcarbon we'll see, but I guess it's more like 1.1kg like the M6

Quickpro and VRT are 200g lighter