Airwolf YFM061, 29er, UDH, T47 with Storage Box

[Matsuo]

Hi everyone,

I’d like to build a mountain bike with drop bars for long-distance riding.

I came across the Airwolf frame, model YFM061.
https://airwolfcarbonbike.com/product/airwolf-29er-t1100-boost-udh-hanger-carbon-mountain-bike-frame-s-m-l-bsa-mtb-carbon-bike-frame-bicycle-frame-with-strorage-box/

- UDH hanger
- T47 threaded bottom bracket
- 2.35" max tire
- Storage box

Has anyone here built a bike with this frame? What has your experience been like with it—does anything start to creak or crack after a while? How is the paint quality?

Thanks for your help.

[bastianb]

Seems great. What kinda fork would you mount? I am thinking about a kinda similar build with the winow 700c60 gravel fork, but with a crown to axle length of 410 the sta would be really like a modern racing geometry for road bikes.

[Matsuo]

Seems great. What kinda fork would you mount? I am thinking about a kinda similar build with the winow 700c60 gravel fork, but with a crown to axle length of 410 the sta would be really like a modern racing geometry for road bikes.

I am considering RS SID SL. Because some comfort here in the central alps aera might be good.

Geometry
As far as I see, there are only 3 sizes, S/M/L.
And for me with 1.79m the S seems to be the closest to my road race frame geometry, where I use 110mm stem.

[Chamomile]

Sure you need an XC frame? New gravels become more XC nowadays. Check SPCycle G028/Mondince FM366 (57 mm clearance) or Mondince FM356 (61 mm) in the neighboring forum branch. Can't comment on anything special about them, just the first frames popped up in there. Perhaps there're some other options.

Also, there was a thread here somewhere about a beach racing bike, don't remember the frame.

[Matsuo]

Sure you need an XC frame? New gravels become more XC nowadays. Check SPCycle G028/Mondince FM366 (57 mm clearance) or Mondince FM356 (61 mm) in the neighboring forum branch. Can't comment on anything special about them, just the first frames popped up in there. Perhaps there're some other options.

Also, there was a thread here somewhere about a beach racing bike, don't remember the frame.

Thank you very much for the information about the brand-new gravel frames!
I wasn’t aware that the tire clearance was already up to 700x61. That really makes things easier.

And it’s also become clear to me that a modern MTB frame was designed for straight handlebars.

Drop bars, on the other hand, typically move the brake levers 80–120 mm further forward (depending on the handlebars and hoods).

So if you simply fit a drop bar to an MTB frame, the cockpit often ends up being too long.
This means you’d have to choose either a long frame with a short stem (50 mm) or a short frame with a slightly longer stem.

In any case, I’m looking at dedicated gravel frames, which have the stack and reach specific to drop bars and, most importantly, offer significantly more tire clearance.

[gribs]

If you look at gravel frames you won't be able to run a mtb suspension fork without seriously upsetting the geometry.

[Matsuo]

If you look at gravel frames you won't be able to run a mtb suspension fork without seriously upsetting the geometry.

Yes, you're absolutely right.
But I don't plan on fitting the gravel frame with a suspension fork.

Since a "modern" gravel frame for Bikepacking can accommodate tires up to 700 × 56,
 a wide MTB tire would be enough to absorb the bumps and provide more comfort.

[Matsuo]

And here’s my final comment on the original topic regarding experiences and opinions about the Airwolf frame.

After reading user reviews here on Chinertown about Airwolf’s absolutely terrible customer support, I’m backing away from the idea of buying a frame from this company and won’t be pursuing this idea any further in this thread.
 

[lukwy]

By the way, has anybody here who built the bike on this frame (YFM061) and could share some photos? Basicaly I wonder how the cables routing in downtube is solved in real world.