Looking for a true Crux knock off.

[Enzotime]

I am looking for a gravel bike that does not have an integrated headset or seatpost binder.  And hopefully is light. 
thanks!

[loopwhile1]

Curious what you settled on. I test rode the crux and really liked it.

[rusty904]

Also interested in a round tube gravel frame with a more traditional look.

[Alancik123]

With popularity of gravel bikes I wonder why no manufacturer copies most popular gravel bikes. You could buy SL9 knock offs and Y1rs before they were even announced, but yet to see Crux 4 or 5 despite their popularity.

[Dan S.]

With popularity of gravel bikes I wonder why no manufacturer copies most popular gravel bikes. You could buy SL9 knock offs and Y1rs before they were even announced, but yet to see Crux 4 or 5 despite their popularity.

Gravel is not super popular in China.

[eucalyptus]

With popularity of gravel bikes I wonder why no manufacturer copies most popular gravel bikes. You could buy SL9 knock offs and Y1rs before they were even announced, but yet to see Crux 4 or 5 despite their popularity.

Crux 4 selling point, same as Aethos, was being super super lightweight using very advanced layups and high-end carbon

Chinese brands are pushing frames much heavier using cheap carbon = they cannot replicate those frames at all, so no point trying. Although now we have brands closing on this territory but they cost a lot more and don't really do knock offs. Like Evolve Cima and Incolor frames. Both using high end carbon fibre layups but also cost a lot more.