I can't remember if this has already been discussed before
We have enough passionate and experienced individuals in here to in theory design a frame that would suit the majority of us.
Of course it would be impossible to please everyone. Not to mention the cost, tooling, QC, and coordination involved. But it seems the vast majority of new frames released within the past year have had at least one or two key aspects of contention. You can pretty much find these pain points in every single frameset thread on this forum:
-Seat tube angle
still too slack
-Bottom bracket height too high/low
-Stack height too low
-Problematic front center length
-Proprietary headset/cockpit systems
-Perception of being too expensive
-Taking too much inspiration from other establish brands
Group orders aren't anything new. Super common within the wristwatch and fashion community forums. And we have the various factory connections. But I actually do wonder if having a frame designed by the people could be a huge value add for both the frame manufacture and consumers.
Or would this project end up being another Homer Simpson trying to design a car.
I wanna hear your thoughts on what you would love to see in a frame design. And also why these types of projects are extremely difficult to pull off.
