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Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components / New lightweight frames: Bigrock, Ican, and Onrii
« on: November 04, 2023, 10:59:34 PM »
Hi all! There are a few “new” frames that have recently entered the market that take inspiration from the Aethos with a traditional round shapes focusing on lightweight. These also have the bonus of taking a regular round seatpost.
1. BigRock Road frame. More details here https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21n57.1.0.0.57a8523cZcTH0G&id=722965987747&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail and on the 4th tab here: http://bigrock.cc/ also looks like it will be for sale on Panda Podium in the near future. Pretty nice image of their carbon clear finish here: http://bigrock.rjkf.top/2023-08-27-15-21-04.jpg?imageMogr2/thumbnail/1500x. I am very seriously considering this instead of the 35mm frame options I have found.
Might also be this "Outshone" frame on Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2023-Lightest-Weight-650g-same-to_1600860750115.html, though the tire clearance specs are different. Seems to be ~700g depending on size and paint. Visually these look nice from the outside, and I would love to know if this really is the same frame.
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2. Ican FL1. This one seems to only exist in renders for now. (11/10/23) added more information. Link: https://www.icanbikes.com/products/super-light-full-internal-road-disc-brake-frame
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2. Onrii One. Covered in this thread: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3832.0.html and including it here for completeness. Also known as the Pinaworks CFR 051 / GR051. Alibaba seller is here: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-Arrival-CRF51-NEW-49cm-52cm_1600949186802.html. Also sold on AliExpress.
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1. BigRock Road frame. More details here https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a21n57.1.0.0.57a8523cZcTH0G&id=722965987747&ns=1&abbucket=5#detail and on the 4th tab here: http://bigrock.cc/ also looks like it will be for sale on Panda Podium in the near future. Pretty nice image of their carbon clear finish here: http://bigrock.rjkf.top/2023-08-27-15-21-04.jpg?imageMogr2/thumbnail/1500x. I am very seriously considering this instead of the 35mm frame options I have found.
Might also be this "Outshone" frame on Alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2023-Lightest-Weight-650g-same-to_1600860750115.html, though the tire clearance specs are different. Seems to be ~700g depending on size and paint. Visually these look nice from the outside, and I would love to know if this really is the same frame.
Pros:
- Offers 2 different fork rakes across the size range (47mm and 44mm)
- T47 BB
- BigRock version is 32mm tire clearance, unclear if there is any difference in mold or just the specs being communicated differently
- Weight: 730g for a 54?
- At the least the Bigrock version is claimed to use a nice mix of m40j and t1000 carbon
Cons:
- BigRock version isn't cheap, the downtube branding is massive would love it without, though the bare carbon version looks lovely
- Other vendors aren't known and the brand (Outshone) is hard to find information on
2. Ican FL1. This one seems to only exist in renders for now. (11/10/23) added more information. Link: https://www.icanbikes.com/products/super-light-full-internal-road-disc-brake-frame
Pros:
- 32mm tire clearance
- Ican is a known seller who has invested in a global footprint
- 790g for a size 54
- Details in the render suggest well thought out FD routing for electronic groups and deeper head tube could be a nice visual design feature as well
- Video is up on their website and the frame looks good
- BB86 AND T47 options
- Listing EN, UCI and Zelder testing as certs. This is different, especially if the latter refers to third party testing being done in Europe
Cons:
- Would it be greedy to have wanted UDH?
- Only offers 44mm forks, so geometry of the size 52 and 49 are less than ideal; but larger sizes are great. fork length is 371mm
2. Onrii One. Covered in this thread: https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3832.0.html and including it here for completeness. Also known as the Pinaworks CFR 051 / GR051. Alibaba seller is here: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/New-Arrival-CRF51-NEW-49cm-52cm_1600949186802.html. Also sold on AliExpress.
Pros:
- Internal and External Routing available
- BSA BB
Cons:
- “Only” 28mm of tire clearance / Updated version seems to have 30mm
- Single rake at 47mm may make larger sizes ride a bit twitchy. Not a problem for little guys like me but worth a call out
- Not sure how the weight limit on the Onrii applies to other sellers
- Seems likely to be above 800g, unless you get the featherweight version