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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: May 06, 2024, 01:34:37 PM »

Hi,

nice report! I was wondering what made you choose this particular frame, compared to brands with similar offerings that you know already (e.g., Carbonda 936 or 909)?

Cheers

Good question! Mainly geometry, reputation (Mira / Miracle have been around a long time) and... I always like to try something different. We already have a Carbonda in the house (my son's bike) and I've previously had an Airwolf. Both were great, but I wanted to try something else. I am also impatient, and other brands' similar frames were not in stock at the time. The final thing for me was the very good communication over WhatsApp.

The only issue about this frame is it doesn't comes with UDH dropout. We wish that they will come out with an updated rear triangle with UDH dropout feature!

Agreed. At the moment it's not an issue because I'm running Shimano, but the option would be nice.



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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: May 01, 2024, 11:39:47 AM »
Just checking with you, how is the correct linkage on your bike now?
Are the 2 linkages for 120(R)/120(F) and 120(R)/140(F)?

in your opinion, how you like the geometry to be improve?


Yes, I have the correct linkage. The 2 linkages are for different shock stroke, but travel is similar at around 120mm with both linkages. It took a while to set up the rear suspension. In the end I used a Shockwiz to get the tune right. It's still very active at the top of its travel (perhaps a shock with a higher compression tune would change this).

Geometry: I think it's fine. It's about right for a modern cross country bike.


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29er / Re: Planning new XC/DC? build
« on: December 31, 2023, 11:54:48 AM »

One thing I really can't get figured out is wheels. I was going to go for DT 240s but the 350s are much cheaper and the only diference that I can find is ~40g on the wheel set so I'm inclined to go that way. Rims are another thing. I want carbon but the price of the usual suspects seems astronomical. I'm looking at Carbonbeam 30mm internal in AM (325g)... I'm 90kg+ so shouldn't go super light.

It sounds like we take a similar approach - no specific budget but trying to do best we can for what we think is reasonable. I prefer alloy rims, so for my build went for Dartmoor Tomcats because they are ~30mm, ~500g and cheap. I had the same thoughts on hubs as you, and ended up going for a 240 front and got a good deal on xtr rear (Universal Cycles). I built the wheels myself have have a 1700g, wide, strong wheelset for the price of a pretty cheap off-the-shelf wheelset.

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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: December 20, 2023, 11:38:46 PM »
An important detail on this frame that anyone considering it needs to know!

In different places, there are 2 different shock sizes listed (184 and 190 eye to eye). I assumed this was an error. Mira confirmed the 190 length and I fitted a 190 shock. It fitted with some fiddling but wasn't right - and topped out as the rocker hit the seat tube.

I checked in with Mira again and they said I should use a 184 shock. After some conversation, it turns out there are 2 different shock linkages available. I had the wrong one. Mira shipped the correct one at no cost. Fitted easily and everything fits properly.

Mira have been really helpful. If you order this frame, make sure you specify which linkage you need. The listing of 2 sizes is not a mistake! Travel with each shock size is the same (ish! 44mm vs 45mm stroke).

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29er / Re: Chinese Carbon 29er Pic Thread.
« on: December 05, 2023, 01:16:37 PM »
There has been some bikes built. Me, my wife and my son has been  upgraded quite a few times. ;D During the pandemic it was easy to sell a used bike so I could build a bike, ride it for a couple of months and sell it for component costs. Now things have changed, its very hard to sell a home built bike so I have  to many bikes and therefore no space for more builds  >:(

But I am looking forward to the new LCFS948 frame, moste likely  I can not resist to build one.



Some great bikes StefanB. I have not built as many bikes as you, but I'm always thinking about the next one! I find researching and building these Chinese frames much more interesting than just buying a mainstream brand.

It looks like you have some beautiful trails and scenery too! Where do you live?



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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: November 17, 2023, 06:35:23 PM »
OK. First couple of rides done, so it's time for some first impressions. A reminder that the Miracle FS822 is the same frame as the Lexon Flyer. I am recovering from COVID at the moment so my fitness has all but disappeared. The + side of this is it gives me a good excuse to stop and tweak at every opportunity (rear shock - I am looking at you...)!

First ride... nice pics. But deep down disappointed. A couple of niggles from the build - I didn't like where the bite point on brakes, the chainline wasn't right and... WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THE SUSPENSION?!  :'(  It was way too soft off the top. It didn't bottom out. It bobbed like mad on the climbs. I was worried that my third Chinese build was going to be the first bad one.

Today, I rode with 2 volume spacers taken out of the shock that has a medium tune (a new Fox Float SL - here it is - https://youtu.be/u-UdqGJoyiY?si=SieY0JbvpUUb7Mzi) and the other niggles fixed. I tweaked it along the way. It is MUCH better.

Summary:
- Don't expect things to be right on the first ride. I knew this already, but I suppose we have to re-learn the same lessons sometimes.

- The whole process of choosing and building one of these frames is awesome. I love these projects!

- Miracle were great to deal with. They struggled with some of the more detailed questions, but they always gave me an answer. They got the measurements wrong for the shock hardware (see above) but... more responsive and knowledgeable than many bike shops. I'm pretty sure measurements are off (and Miracle's don't match Lexon's). I'll try and get around to posting some real world measurements.

- It was shipped and arrived quickly. Faster than I expected - I wasn't ready for it when it arrived.

- It's built into a light-ish bike. It weighs in at about 26.5-27 lbs with pedals and computer. I couldn't go much lighter without spending silly money or compromising the bike's capability. The only significant weight savings I can easily see are in the Brand X dropper and SLX cassette.

- Quality of frame appears good inside. Paint is good. Bearings are good. Everything fitted, and the BB threaded straight in without any problems.

How does it ride?
Now the Fox niggle is sorted... very good! On the ups it's good at getting the power down, especially with the shock in climb mode. In fully open mode it can find grip on some quite loose sections.

My main descent has been down John Deere on Mount Seymour (Vancouver). It wants to rail around corners, drop off (rather than roll) features. It feels quite 'poppy' without the scary feeling you get on old school xc bikes.

There is nothing about it that is life changing or surprising. There is nothing about it that is bad. It just feels like a lively modern bike. It is more nimble than my Scott Genius, but likely not as capable on the steeps. Much of that will be down to set up (e.g. lighter wheels and tires) as well as the frame.

The bike is (I think!) what I set out to build: a capable modern cross country bike that I can race and use for long rides, but that is capable enough to enjoy technical trails. I would love to ride it back-to-back with something like a Transition Spur / Orbea Oiz and also the 120mm Carbonda / Lightcarbons.


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29er / Re: Lexon Flyer
« on: November 15, 2023, 02:06:17 PM »
That´s great!!! Do you fell like it´s a XC bike or more like a Trail bike?

I don´t think it bobs too much, but I´m using a little bit more sag than usual, like 18% and 2 tokens inside the shock.

I´m really enjoying the bike. Sometimes I feel like the front could be a little more slack and with more travel, but it´s probably my fault for using it in a flow/enduro track.

Not sure yet if the bike is more trail than XC: life has been busy so I've only had a few minutes to test it out and have not been on a proper ride yet. Good to know you are not finding it bobs too much though! I really hope I don't find it needs more travel. Every XC bike I build ends up as a trail bike. I really want to keep this as a capable XC bike  :D

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29er / Re: Lexon Flyer
« on: November 14, 2023, 10:28:28 AM »
I got a Lexon Flyer.

Using it as a mix of natural trail and some freeride/flow tracks in Brazil.
So far so good, but wondering if I could get more travel on the front.

Using a 120mm Sid Select 35.

ps: I was trying to insert some link for my youtube videos, but don´t know how to make it work here



Our bikes are very similar ;p (http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4524.0.html)

How are you finding the ride? I am not sure if the design bobs quite a lot when climbing, or if I just haven't found the correct shock pressure yet. Other than that mine feels good - and fast!

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Metal Frames / Re: MOOSO frames?
« on: November 10, 2023, 06:00:22 PM »
I tried to get an MTB frame from them a couple of years ago and got no response.

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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: November 10, 2023, 05:03:13 PM »
I just looked up the Unno thinking with a VPP there's no way it could look similar, but... umm... yes it does. The Unno is absolutely gorgeous!

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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: November 10, 2023, 03:29:34 PM »
Took a break today to put last parts on. All done!

Now to set everything up and do a shakedown ride. Then call some friends and plan a big day out!

What do you all think? Is anyone else using this frame?

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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: November 10, 2023, 03:16:45 PM »
I still haven't recieved a reply from Sally at Mira from my first enquiry.  How did you go about buying it?

I emailed Sally and she messaged me on Whatsapp almost right away. My initial enquiry was to info@mira-factory.com.

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29er / Re: Welcome to Chinertown - Introduce Yourself!
« on: November 08, 2023, 04:12:42 PM »
Hello!
I joined after lurking for a few days reading about all the different companies making open mold frames.

Im interested in something fairly specific.  Currently have a Trek Top Fuel 7 (aluminum) and its fairly heavy (by my standards).  I started riding in my youth around 30 years ago, and by the late 90s was really into XC racing on a hardtail that weighed around 21 lbs.  I pretty much stopped riding for 20 years and picked up again in 2022 and wasnt in very good shape.  I got the Trek and got back to work training and getting faster.  It of course feels pretty heavy but ive put carbon rims on it and dropped some weight off it in a few places.  As I train for races I want to reward myself for the work im doing and so im looking for a frame with similar geometry - 120mm travel but with the right shock size to get a remote lockout on it (the Trek uses 185x50 shock which isnt available from fox or RS with a lockout).  Ive compared all the major brands, I do like transition spur and fezzari signal peak, with the fezzari frame being the cheaper option.  Then I started looking at open mold frames.

Heres what im looking for:
120mm travel (might consider 110-115) because outside of racing i do ride some good trails
shock size that allows for remote lockout (cable routing for remote lockout a plus)
BSA bottom bracket (preferred over press fit - Ive never had a pressfit but it sounds like a nightmare on cheap frames with creaking etc.)
66-67 deg head angle - again outside of racing I do some aggressive trail riding

Bonus points for being made of better materials (blend of T800 and T1000 better than T700?)
Bonus points for having ISCG-05 mounts (although not a dealbreaker because I dont currently use them)
160mm disc size is fine

Here is a list of some that seem to meet my needs:
Miracle FS822 - seems new, Head angle a little steep but seems to be due to short fork length - my current favorite no idea of price or color options yet
Lexon Flyer (ebay) seems like the same as the miracle (they use a more realistic fork length and get 66.4 head angle) but ebay only has 2 color schemes and I dont want the decals.
SP cycle SPM861 - not sure about the cable routing in the headset or if it has routing for the remote lockout (doesnt look like it)
Workswell WCB-M-364 - not much info on it - looks like you can spec a BSA bb but its also a vertical shock 185x55
BXT-MTB-147 (ebay) - looks nice except 69 deg head angle - I guess I could use an offset headset and slacken it a little but thats more work.
Carbonda FM1001 - more travel than I need unless I use 185x50 which put me back to no remote lockout, I suppose its possible to go longer travel with a lockout (185x55)

Am I missing any companies?  Winowsports and DIYcarbonbikes are pressfit BB.  Airwolf YFM059 doesnt have enough travel for my taste.

Congratulations on getting back into riding. It's the best way to keep physically and mentally fit!

You are looking for exactly the same things as me. I went for a Miracle FS822 and am building it at the moment. There's a thread on the 29er page. It ticks all of your boxes except shock stroke (which you may be able to change, depening on your shock. Fox DPS easy. Rockshox not so much). The short fork on the fs822 geo chart is an error - I think it says 505 axle-to-crown but should say 530. Keep an eye on my thread and learn from whatever I bump into!

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A little piece of genius arrived from ZTTO yesterday: a tool for threading cables and hoses. Comes as a neat little set with all the pieces I can think I would ever need for threading internal cables and hoses. The price seems to go up and down. I paid CAD$10 shipped... it's now cheaper.


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001356486564.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.11.4fc62c4b36Z3RG&algo_pvid=692dbf46-ab0d-4782-a052-749d95dd870e&algo_exp_id=692dbf46-ab0d-4782-a052-749d95dd870e-5&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CAD%2111.94%216.09%21%21%2161.62%21%21%402103248516994799138593175e8a46%2112000015796826813%21sea%21CA%21840273233%21&curPageLogUid=XEKcde4kMl8J

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29er / Re: Miracle / MIRA FS822
« on: November 08, 2023, 03:07:03 PM »
Mini update. I picked up the final part (dropper) last night. I was hoping to use the dropper from my Airwolf hardtail but it is stuck - my first time as a victim of alloy post corroding in a carbon frame!

Order of little bits (BB; centerlock / 6 bolt adapters) from ZTTO arrived in less than a week.

Decals and wrap added to frame and cables/ hoses are routed.

Shock is fitted. The hardware was a bit of work. The shock reducers are listed as 8*22mm but the front one did not fit - I filed it down to ~21.7mm and it's in. The BB is fitted - no issues at all with the threads. As I get to know the frame, I am impressed with the quality.

I'm aiming to build the bike this week, and hope to have a 'shakedown' and first proper pics and report this weekend. I'm excited to finally ride it and do the 'big reveal'!

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