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Title: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 22, 2023, 06:31:34 AM
the frame on which the Ridley raft is made. Also in this frame, without changes, the TSW team racer participates in the World Cross Country Championship, her instagram https://www.instagram.com/hercilianajara/

price 650 dollars + 180 cost delivery to Russia

Weight L size 2080 g

Sales to Europe and Brazil are prohibited. You can guess why.)

while all the information
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: riaan on August 23, 2023, 11:26:09 AM
Hi , do you have any idea of rider max weight and quality of the frame. I own a Hongfu xc frame since 2020 the torpado ursus team frame . Im looking for upgrade frame high quality but must have 2 bottle mounts. I mainly do xcm races and is gets really  hot. Any info on this or another modern high quality frame. I see the ridley frame got more bottle mounts  and the head tube slightly different. Thanks for the info
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 23, 2023, 11:32:44 PM
Hi , do you have any idea of rider max weight and quality of the frame. I own a Hongfu xc frame since 2020 the torpado ursus team frame . Im looking for upgrade frame high quality but must have 2 bottle mounts. I mainly do xcm races and is gets really  hot. Any info on this or another modern high quality frame. I see the ridley frame got more bottle mounts  and the head tube slightly different. Thanks for the info

Carbonda FM909
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: riaan on August 24, 2023, 02:13:57 AM
Hi thanks for the option
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ottoreni on August 26, 2023, 06:20:26 AM
I don't see it on their homepage?
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 26, 2023, 06:23:55 AM
I don't see it on their homepage?

only a banner on the main page
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 28, 2023, 07:11:09 AM
TSW Full Quest TSW SRAM Racing Teamon this frame

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXfW5Puars
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: riaan on August 28, 2023, 01:21:55 PM
Hi. So you think this is also a good buy for the price . Its $300 cheaper than the carbonda frame , but how close is the quality? My previous hongfu was very good no idea of this one
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 28, 2023, 11:25:55 PM
Hi. So you think this is also a good buy for the price . Its $300 cheaper than the carbonda frame , but how close is the quality? My previous hongfu was very good no idea of this one

Might have to buy it to check the quality :(

but this is not a copy, but an original development used like carbonda by "brands" so indirectly there are reasons to rely on quality
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Boybiskit on August 30, 2023, 04:22:43 PM
Hi. So you think this is also a good buy for the price . Its $300 cheaper than the carbonda frame , but how close is the quality? My previous hongfu was very good no idea of this one

Does anyone have an actual link / info / pricing for this frame? I've had a look on the website and seen the banner. Would like more info.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on August 30, 2023, 10:56:17 PM
Does anyone have an actual link / info / pricing for this frame? I've had a look on the website and seen the banner. Would like more info.

what specific information do you want more?
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on September 07, 2023, 01:56:25 AM
a little photoshop to understand what the bike will look like in the assembly :)
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: riaan on September 08, 2023, 11:58:23 AM
That now , looks like a great bike . Any idea for carbon wheels and one piece handlebar manufacturer for that frame . Must be able handel 95kg rider. Saw nice looking parts from lightcarbon  , not sure if hongfu do those parts .
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: smoothmoose on September 08, 2023, 01:14:54 PM
Looks like a good bike, but the seat tubes are at least 20mm too long per size and many would end up running too short dropper posts IMO.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on September 09, 2023, 11:22:58 PM
and this is what a ridley looks like on this frame. The frame really look not bad.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: tachi158 on September 13, 2023, 11:58:15 AM
Where do you buy this, directly from them? I don't see any links to buy in their site
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on September 13, 2023, 12:07:53 PM
Where do you buy this, directly from them? I don't see any links to buy in their site

I communicate with them by mail sales02@hongfu-bikes.cn
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on September 17, 2023, 11:01:59 PM
https://conceptcycles.com.br/ another “brand” using this frame unchanged, from Brazil.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: RDY on September 18, 2023, 08:37:56 AM
This looks interesting.  Especially as the reach on the FM909 is so ridiculously long, which doesn't really suit me.  Though as you're losing more than 2 degrees of seat angle here, the effective reach loss will be a lot less than the 40mm that the raw number suggests.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on September 18, 2023, 09:22:20 AM
This looks interesting.  Especially as the reach on the FM909 is so ridiculously long, which doesn't really suit me.  Though as you're losing more than 2 degrees of seat angle here, the effective reach loss will be a lot less than the 40mm that the raw number suggests.

and costs less than the 909 frame. Geometry can be said to be standard for today, angles 67/76 and 470mm reach in L size
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Nenokkias(fin) on November 15, 2023, 05:43:02 AM
This frame is now also available in Europe!  I am seriously considering ordering..
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: danved on November 15, 2023, 06:10:40 AM
Have you gotten any information about pricing etc. to Europe for the frame?
Is it still 650 + shipping as mentioned in the first post.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Nenokkias(fin) on November 15, 2023, 06:45:10 AM
Have you gotten any information about pricing etc. to Europe for the frame?
Is it still 650 + shipping as mentioned in the first post.

I ask those and now waiting answer
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on November 15, 2023, 06:57:27 AM
Apparently you need to write to Hongfu by email or whatsapp

Malissa
Shenzhen HongFu Sports Equipment CO.,LTD
E: sales02@hongfu-bikes.cn
whatsapp/skype:+86 13418715659
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: RobertRinAustin on November 15, 2023, 09:40:14 PM
Someone should put together a group buy.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Nenokkias(fin) on November 16, 2023, 01:13:57 AM
Frame FM138:$650(with UDH Drop out hanger)

Head set:$15

Rear Axle:$15

Shipping cost:$255(use WXY express to Finland,and you no need to pay for the tax,fuel bills are going up)

Total cost:$935/set(in UD matte/glossy color),thanks.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Hayek on November 22, 2023, 10:21:59 AM
Just ordered the frame this morning. Was more straightforward than some of the other manufacturers that I've dealt with. I'll post again as soon as I receive it and give an assessment of how it compares in quality to Carbonda and LightCarbon.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on November 23, 2023, 04:32:59 AM
i order last week this frame, my experience with HongFu are,
quality very good
service also,
delivery time very long
we will see how long this frame will take to come to Holland , the last one take 6 months, they tell me 2 weeks before finish the frame and then send to me, but last year they tell the same.
now looking for the rest of the bike,
allready order XX SL transmission group and Fox shock.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on November 23, 2023, 10:36:32 PM
The most important and interesting question is what size bottles size into the frame?

(visually the hinge of the suspension arm protrudes forward too much, blocking the possibility of placing a large bottle)
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: danved on November 24, 2023, 01:13:19 AM
I have also just ordered a frame, with custom painting.
They told me that the paint time would be 2-3 weeks.

I have had 2 frames from HongFu before and am really happy with the quality (both road frames).
First time building a full suspension, so looking forward to it.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Nenokkias(fin) on November 24, 2023, 05:21:59 AM
I have also just ordered a frame, with custom painting.
They told me that the paint time would be 2-3 weeks.

I have had 2 frames from HongFu before and am really happy with the quality (both road frames).
First time building a full suspension, so looking forward to it.

What was price of painting?
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: danved on November 24, 2023, 09:03:50 AM
It depends on the complexity of the paintjob, I just went with a single color red chameleon color (red to black) and golden logo decals (on the lower frame tube and on the upper chainstay).
Paint was $150 and decals were $75.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: danved on December 12, 2023, 06:02:51 AM
My frame have now been painted and is ready to be shipped   :D
It's painted in a dark crimson red.

I will post high resolution photos when I receive the frame.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 12, 2023, 07:27:42 AM
looks very good,
 my frame they send 20 days ago still not received [netherlands]
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 25, 2023, 04:14:29 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/mBPkc1V/413371996-925650582322376-5126072375760033153-n.jpg)

start also,
frame looks good quality very good. strange bushing 25 and 16mm but after a smal search good to find, weight is heavy around 2kg

i montage XX sl  transmissin group, change fork to 34 Factory, Magura trail mt7/mt8, double mt7 will not fitt at the rear, no space enough.
waiting for the carbon wheels now
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 25, 2023, 04:27:45 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/mBPkc1V/413371996-925650582322376-5126072375760033153-n.jpg)

start also,
frame looks good quality very good. strange bushing 25 and 16mm but after a smal search good to find, weight is heavy around 2kg

i montage XX sl  transmissin group, change fork to 34 Factory, Magura trail mt7/mt8, double mt7 will not fitt at the rear, no space enough.
waiting for the carbon wheels now

what maximum size water bottle?

and what is the maximum seatpost insertion depth?
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 27, 2023, 04:38:48 AM
seatpost dept about 280/290mm space enough for a big dropper, frame is size L
waterbottle 500ml or when u use sideloader 750ml
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 27, 2023, 05:59:14 AM
seatpost dept about 280/290mm space enough for a big dropper, frame is size L
waterbottle 500ml or when u use sideloader 750ml

looks like a good frame :) did you disassemble the frame? what bearings are used?
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 27, 2023, 08:09:58 AM
no not yet. but i think the normal chinese bearings as usual
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 27, 2023, 08:55:17 PM
Quote
For weight Super Light version frame L size is 1533g for one set, and price is $750/set.
Now we have FM138-SL ,size L ,19"available in stock.Thanks.

1533g :o :o :o
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 29, 2023, 05:56:09 AM
the non sl is 0,5kg heavier , i think the SL weights more then 1533g,
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: CARLOS5 on December 29, 2023, 12:12:16 PM
i have ordered a frame in size s how is the quality of the frame? is there a lighter version? when i spoke with malissa she didn't tell me anything about a super light version
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Ryan_M on December 30, 2023, 08:12:38 PM
the non sl is 0,5kg heavier , i think the SL weights more then 1533g,

Yeah that's highly optimistic, and not what I was told. This seems much more realistic.

Yes,we have light weight version for FM138, and the price for frame FM138-SL is $750.
Normal version FM138,size L,weight:2080g±45g.
Light weight version FM138-SL,size L ,weight:1930±45g.
No any strength difference, if the rider weight ≤100KG is ok .


I'm in the process of ordering one, so I can report back when it arrives.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 30, 2023, 09:31:09 PM
Yeah that's highly optimistic, and not what I was told. This seems much more realistic.

Yes,we have light weight version for FM138, and the price for frame FM138-SL is $750.
Normal version FM138,size L,weight:2080g±45g.
Light weight version FM138-SL,size L ,weight:1930±45g.
No any strength difference, if the rider weight ≤100KG is ok .


I'm in the process of ordering one, so I can report back when it arrives.

That's what I was told, but yes, 1800-1900 for the super light version seems to be a more realistic weight.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: ilyamaksimov on December 30, 2023, 10:00:46 PM
use sideloader 750ml

have photo? Looking at the photos and videos of the frame, it seems that the 750 ml bottle will rest against the rear suspension link
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on December 31, 2023, 04:15:06 AM
sorry no picture, i try and you are right it touch the link
so 500ml is max, i have a 950ml and that fit at the normal but i think a lot of weight at the small bolds,
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on January 04, 2024, 01:39:18 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/x84BkY4/407141555-1365507897491959-2810454841825468427-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/HCBtyvC/407148148-1080315183149580-6306472317873758690-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/9ZBZZbt/407234444-743729224318434-2682206180016086157-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/bX4sMYT/414667241-799033282031543-3680230311542133644-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/KshYHNW/414499112-1461729514412000-6038755029616789958-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Ns1zWLp/407066730-1564153357705715-3975223342543877912-n.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/cXb4kp9/407243550-391118626704631-241664828234846535-n.jpg)


finally finish 9.7kg
fox 34 factory 120mm
dps 190x45 factory
XXsl transmission group
magura mt7/mt8 trail
syncross handelbar
carbonseatpost and saddle
36mm carbon wheels 1295 gr
kenda booster tyre 2.4 tubless

now wait for better weather most wet winter ever here, so use the old bike for a while
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Ryan_M on January 18, 2024, 07:15:40 PM
That's what I was told, but yes, 1800-1900 for the super light version seems to be a more realistic weight.

Just got my frame today. The large superlight is 1980g.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Ryan_M on February 09, 2024, 10:56:07 PM
strange bushing 25 and 16mm but after a smal search good to find


Can you share links for the bushings? I'm not having any luck finding them.
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: hwpaints on February 10, 2024, 12:18:02 PM
https://www.bike-components.de/de/Cane-Creek/Double-Barrel-Einbaubuchsenset-8-mm-p31490/?o=202996-schwarz-16-0-mm
https://www.bike-components.de/de/Fox-Racing-Shox/Aluminium-Einbaubuchsenset-8-mm-7-teilig-p79366/?o=69401057-black-25-0-mm
Title: Re: HongFu FM138
Post by: Ryan_M on April 24, 2024, 09:16:04 PM
Finished my build. I am absolutely loving this machine. I'm still tweaking a bit, but still very happy. Tweaking so far includes going with a different bar, the rear sus was a little too compliant for my taste so added the larger token and I think it's good. I want to make the front a little more compliant so will see what's in there for tokens, planning to remove one. I was expecting this build to be good, but I wasn't expecting to love it so much.