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Nice, the Pearl White looks really good.

I asked the exact same question to Perry and he said no  ::). In the dark green it's not a big deal so I'm not willing to wait another month for it anyway. The lighter colors look a lot nicer without the holes I think.

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Nice! What size/color?

 If you have any information that hasn't already been discussed, feel free to share it.

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No, my toes are luckily not that long.  ;D I calculated that with >620mm of BB to front axle I should be on the save side. Size 56 is actually perfect regarding body position (apart from the seatpost). My next concern is that I would like to fit my full frame bag into the triangle which would need min 45cm of vertical space. Too bad that many frames are having lower top tubes now.

I'd rather buy the right size bike and a new frame bag ;D

They didn't answer your question? I actually asked two different contacts, because the first answer got stuck in my spam folder. The first answer was 60mm in fact. But this sounded a bit unrealistic for a 45mm frame set.
Yes, I think with such a big inner width tires might blow up to the next tire with. The 44mm Tufo could increase it's width by 3mm already. But I would wait until the frame is in your hands to measure the real clearance.
Nope. I asked for seatstay, chainstay and fork clearance measurements and the reply was

"Hi XXX

Thanks for your inquiry .
GRAR0 need to buy on www.icancycling.com

Thanks . "

I don't think they really understood the question honestly. Wrt tires, yeah I'll wait and see.

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Yes, I've seen these LB rims. As the huge Nextie Rims they are a bit on the expensive side. So I was looking for sth. more reasonable.
May I ask how tall you are? I'm undecided between 56 and 58. I'm 6.0ft (184/88cm).
Yeah, they are definitely not the cheapest rims. Maybe I should also consider others!

I'm 180cm and I was definitely struggling to choose between the 54 and 56. The 58 is huge though, do you need the extra toe clearance?

I did a lot of calculations and concluded that just like with the saddle position, I would have some room to play with in terms of stack and reach on 56, and I would most likely not have to worry about toe overlap.
Since the STA is the same for both (edit: 56 and 58 are the same, not 54 and 56), the saddle position should be irrelevant for this choice and you can focus on getting the stack and reach numbers you want, and the front center you need to avoid overlap.

Btw. They measured the internal fork with for me which is supposed to be 53mm. I didn't ask about the rear clearance. But since the frame has a dropped chainstay 48mm could fit (But with the nextie rims ... I'm not so sure  ;D).

Nice, I tried to get them to do measurements with no luck. Yeah maybe the best option is to go for a nominally smaller tire with the really wide rim :D.

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For now, I'm going with the wheelsets I already have - DT Swiss G1800 alu gravel wheels and Fulcrum DB6 alu road wheels.
For road, I'll probably go 32mm GP5K STR front and back. For gravel I'll first see how big a tire I can fit and then pick a brand (would be nice to fit a 48 Thundero, but that's unlikely I think).

Wheels are definitely the next upgrade though, once I figure out what I want. I have my eye on the crazy Nextie 45AGX wheelset (inspired by the 3T Discus wheelset I think) - 40mm external, 29mm internal hooked rim and 45mm deep.
For what you want, Lightbicycle have 32 external / 25 internal rims in many different depths.

For the bike fit stuff, I have no idea. I just know that I don't hate my current saddle position. Should definitely get a fit some day though.

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Yes, that is indeed the way it should be done. With a detailed geometry compare site you can see if the setback will work for you.

A tip: not all saddle rails are equally long, so if you can't find your correct position with the saddle you have, you can always see if there are saddles with longer rails. With my Hygge (only available with setback seatpost) I can only use one particular saddle because the rails are longer in the back. Nearly all the carbon saddles have too short rails in the back.

I should have done more comparing between frames and bought an other frame with less setback  ???

Thanks! Curious what saddle you are using, as it is always nice to have a bit more adjustability. It's hard to compare saddle rails from pictures, especially since we're after the length in the back as you said and not the total length of the rails.

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I pulled the trigger, and bought a Chameleon one in size 56. Really excited about it. Going to build it up with 11 sp mechanical Ultegra, and hoping to fit 50/34 chainrings on there. It's going to be my do-it-all bike with a road and a gravel wheelset.
 Unfortunately, it won't show up for another 2 months  :( (EU preorder for June 30).

A few things:

1) The reason it has similar geo to the BXT and Nextie, is that all 3 are very heavily "inspired" by the Scott Addict Gravel. That's also why I'm hoping 50/34 will fit, since that fits on the Scott.

2) When it comes to the setback, what matters is that we can achieve our preferred saddle position relative to the BB. This in turn can be determined from just 2 factors: The seat tube angle and the setback relative to the line through the bottom bracket. The reason the setback looks big is that the seat tube is shifted forward relative to the BB as seen by the blue line.

i) My current bike has a STA of 73.5 instead of 73 on the Graro. That results in shifting the saddle back roughly 5mm at my saddle height, relative to my current bike.
ii) My current bike has a setback of maybe 5mm, (round seatpost centered on the BB). This means another net 15-5 mm = 10mm setback.
iii) However, the clamp that holds the saddle rails is also much smaller on the Graro, which gives a bit of leeway the other way (roughly 7mm by my estimation).


I've concluded that I can easily achieve my current saddle position, even without slamming the saddle all the way forward.

Will definitely post a lot of measurements related to tire clearance, chainring clearance etc when I receive the frame!


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Given a STA of 73, that results in a horizontal setback of 15.68. So not a big difference, assuming I got the trig right.
Eyeballing the drawing, we're losing another 10mm relative to the center of the seat tube though.

I noticed that the Nextie G2 has the exact same geometry: https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=648f566fec82fc001a96df32,65c2a0c6a244e9001aeae09c,
except for 10mm longer chainstays.

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Do you need a stock handlebar?

No, I don't, and I have been looking at other options. That said, I'm a bit confused about compatibility between integrated headsets.
I'm also considering a traditional handlebar and routing the cables under the stem into the headset.

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I'm considering this frame a lot, I really like the look.

ICAN have an assembly video on their Youtube channel - I can't get the link to work for some reason. At 4:29 you can clearly see that the installed tire is a 45mm Rambler. The ICAN G25 wheels are 25 mm internal, so according to a bit of googling the Rambler should measure 46-47mm.

 I have also been writing with Perry from ICAN, according to them the max chainring size in 2x is 46/33. But it looks like a GRX 48/31 in the video, and it doesn't seem to be close to the chainstays.

My main issue right now is that their handlebar doesn't come narrower than 400.

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