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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Full build here.... bit supprised at the total... still way cheaper than most off the shelf bikes with the same spec. Especially with carbon wheels.  :o :o
2,458.42Euro In parts alone. Honestly feel a bit sick looking at that. <- I Blame the person who made me add it all up! ahaha
What's the most annoying is a guy on ebay has the NS TR low model going for 3500GBP and I though I would be building mine for much less. The 268 VAT on the frame at customs was the killer here. My total including the frame was 3,612.74 Euro (23% VAT).
You can get the race version for 3.5k Euro from Wiggle or CRC https://www.wiggle.com/ns-bikes-synonym-race-2-suspension-bike-2020 - its a large reduction though  :(
Do I understand you right, you payed the same amount for your build than an equal NS Syn build costs? That would be strange
Well yes and no. At Wiggle/CRC for us Europeans:
The NS Bikes Synonym 2 is 3.5k (List Price €4,754.39 Save 26%), but I have better spec IMO and there is no large is stock.
The NS Bikes Synonym 1 is 4.6k (List Price €6,112.79 Save 24%)  and would be more similar to my spec, no carbon wheels but does have carbon bars and cranks - you win some you loose some compared to my build.
NS Bikes Synonym Race 2 is 3.5k (List Price €4,641.19 Save 25%) and is the race version, they have L in stock but I didn't want 100mm Travel. You will not have a good time (IMO) in Ireland on the rocks with 100mm if you're trying to keep up with 130mm-140mm bikes.
These discounts were not on 1 month ago when I ordered. Plus alot of people never had their stuff seized by customs so i'm pretty unlucky.

September 02, 2020, 06:26:18 AM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Does this naked carbon interface on the inside of the chainstay with the rear wheel endcap look right to you?
Other carbon frames I’ve had all had metal plates on the inside of the chainstay that bolted through to the outside, similar to the drive side.
It's fine because the Thru-Axle takes the load and transfers it to the frame through the walls of the hole! The shoulder is just for seating the wheel.

September 25, 2020, 05:51:36 AM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
I took out the rear derailleur hanger and I saw that there is only 4-5mm of carbon fibre around the big hole of the metal insert. I'm pretty astonished to see such thin area at this position. Sure the force from drops propagates upwards to the chunkier part, but still, it looks fragile on a XC frame.

It' thin sure but don't know if it's too thin. The specialized epic has the same:

https://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/weight-weenies/1156933d1504972135-new-build-2018-s-works-epic-hardtail-di2-20170907_193723.jpg
https://bikerumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Specialized-Epic-hardtail-HT-2020-xc-race-carbon-Brain-fork-actual-weight-17.jpg


September 29, 2020, 05:53:11 AM
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Re: XD 12 speed cassette Hey! You sound Irish with the 'I'm after' did I guess right?  From what I know, the Sram cassettes will work but maybe not as well since they dont have hyperglide+, but probably as well as they do on Sram groupsets. I guess the Aliexpress 12 speed ones will too!
September 30, 2020, 04:29:27 AM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Do you have any good tips on frame protection btw? I'm leaning towards some sort of transparent film to show off the color but still protect it somewhat.
I went for this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000TPC7HU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Seems ok for general wear, I'd still use a specific chainstay protector though.

October 01, 2020, 11:35:08 AM
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Re: ZTTO BB92 BB86 threaded bottom brackets. I have one on my carbonda FM936 and its really really well made. I can't speak to the bearings quality but the shell is good. The plastic top hats were about 0.01-0.02mm too thick so a little bit of sand paper and it was golden. the top hats space the bearing and the axle.

The 4 o-rings should be good for a little bit of tollerance issue maybe 0.05-0.1mm. I've not actually ridden the bb yet but it went in very nicely.

October 15, 2020, 04:48:48 AM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
Yes it is, it is working perfectly. Looking back at the thread it looks like one person was not so lucky. I deflated it all the way and bounced on it while someone watched the gap behind the seat. It was close but it wouldnt budge no matter how hard I bounced on the empty shock. As long as you order the SL version, I bet it will be fine. If you look back in the thread you will notice most of the quality control issues were not with the SL version.

I think the digressive tune is perfect. That said, this bike made me realize how much softer a linear tune feels compared to a digressive tune. With only
a 100+mm of travel in the back, a linear tune doesnt really make sense.

For the knockoff comment. This frames front traingle is the real deal. Unbranded, sure. Knockoff, no


I have the same shock on my Standard size L and I have 1cm clearance at full compression. I'll get a caliper and measure it with a pic and upload it.

What pressure are you running in the shock? I'm 70kg and at around 250 PSI.
Thanks :)

October 20, 2020, 06:22:56 AM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Took the bike out for the first time today!
Holy shit!   ;D ;D ;D Handles way better than I expected. It rips on the down hills, the 120mm at the front feels amazing with that slack head angle. I found the rear was really hugging the rooty hills whilst not sucking my power. I intend to use this bike in the National Points Series in Ireland this year so I'm buzzing for that. My build weighs 11kg so it's it's so throwable when things get steep.

Will post some pics from the trails tomorrow!

October 20, 2020, 12:44:36 PM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
How did it climb?  Is the long wheelbase and low BB really noticeable?

Long wheel base yes, but in a good way! Also mine is a L so if you want a shorter wheel base take M. I have a 44mm offset fork so I dont know how much of a difference that makes.

Low bb didnt notice at all with 170 cranks! I was going down deep railway sleeper stairs on the trail and didnt notice a too low feeling.
I'm going to a trail center tomorrow so will report more.

October 20, 2020, 04:11:05 PM
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Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts Hi All,

Long awaited is my completed build photo. I took the bike out yesterday for the first time on proper trails. It rides like a dream. The suspenion is very efficient on the climbs and supple on the small stuff without bob. It feels like a magic carpet ride. My 2 friends said they've never ridden anything like it before - in as good way. I was hitting 500m long rock gardens, 20cm deep mud dh tracks, flowy jumps no problem.

The Rockshox SID Select 120mm 44mm is fantastic. It eats up the chatter and roots but gets very progressive towards the end of the stoke never bottoming out. 
Shimano XT 12s is fantastic, cant fault it, shifts under power so so well.  XT brakes are fantastic and cannot fault them.  The BTLOS wheels are a dream, carbon wheels are like riding on train tracks, not a jot of flex. 11kg helps the climbing performance no doubt!

You can see my excel for the build in my previous comments! The only thing you need is a external lockring for the front disc due to the 15mm axle.

for 3.5k euro I think to replicate the Geo and spec of my build, the only things on the market are the NS or specialized epic Evo. For a similar spec both are 5.5k-6.5k euro.

Basically, you can replace the frame and the whole drive train OR buy a second set of carbon wheels, and still be less than the Specialized Epic Evo. In my opinion that's better than any warranty!!! 



October 22, 2020, 05:54:31 AM
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