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Other Resources => Vendor Discussion & Reviews => Topic started by: 1Sigma on March 09, 2022, 07:14:55 AM
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So, I think I'll try a Chinese brand helmet.
Looking at the SUNRIMOON helmets.
Looking for opinions.
Trying to choose between their
TS-98 Model - lightweight, more ventilation
https://www.sunrimoonhelmet.com/collections/adult-bike-helmets/products/sunrimoon-adult-bicycle-helmet-road-bike-helmet-for-man-and-woman-cycling-helmets-helmet-for-adult-ts-98-angel-isaac-2021new
TS-42 Model - more aerodynamic, less ventilation but looks better IMO
https://www.sunrimoonhelmet.com/collections/adult-bike-helmets/products/sunrimoon-adult-bicycle-helmet-road-bike-helmet-for-man-and-woman-cycling-helmets-helmet-for-adult-ts-42-saint-michael2021new
Some context: my current helmet is a CCM-branded helmet. This is akin to something from Walmart, and probably lower quality than something from Decathlon. I already assume it is a low-quality Chinese helmet. Pretty much anything would be an upgrade for me.
Not concerned about safety. I know some folks get pretty protective about helmet choices (see what I did there...), but it is basically just a piece of injection molded foam shrink wrapped in a thin shell of plastic. Sunrimoon/Cigna's core business are helmets, so I assume they'll pass muster.
I'd be forgoing MIPS and premium retention systems provided by top-shelf helmets, but as I said - anything is an upgrade for me.
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"HEART TO THE SUN, DREAM FORWARD" haha gold!
Don't know anything about these guys but agree that the second option looks better.
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"HEART TO THE SUN, DREAM FORWARD" haha gold!
Don't know anything about these guys but agree that the second option looks better.
Gotta love them Chinglish slogans. I sometimes think it's be better if they just let it in Chinese.
❤
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Comfort is also a significant factor when it comes to helmets. The fancy retention systems help those with oddly shaped or small noggins. At that price-point there are a ton of better options online Nashbar, performance bicycle, etc.
But if you're buying just out of curiosity to see whats available from China, I'd be interested to see your review. 8)
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Comfort is also a significant factor when it comes to helmets. The fancy retention systems help those with oddly shaped or small noggins. At that price-point there are a ton of better options online Nashbar, performance bicycle, etc.
But if you're buying just out of curiosity to see whats available from China, I'd be interested to see your review. 8)
For sure the latter! I am curious how well it will stack up (and report back here)
Also for sure the better retention systems will be more comfortable. I can’t imagine a helmet being more uncomfortable than my current one though
Of the two helmets I singled out, which one would you pick?
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I think they both look terrible, so I'd go with whichever provides more ventilation.
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I think they both look terrible, so I'd go with whichever provides more ventilation.
Lol. Fair enough. I’m not sure what an attractive helmet looks like anyways.
Maybe something in a more conventional road design?
https://www.sunrimoonhelmet.com/products/sunrimoon-ts-99-helmet
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Any ideas on weights for these models? couldn't find anything on their site or social
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Any ideas on weights for these models? couldn't find anything on their site or social
Looks like the specs are located under the colour selection.
Its in Chinese. Looks like thr TS-42 is 238g for medium, 248g for large. The other one is a bit lighter i think
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Lol. Fair enough. I’m not sure what an attractive helmet looks like anyways.
Maybe something in a more conventional road design?
https://www.sunrimoonhelmet.com/products/sunrimoon-ts-99-helmet
Yeah I'd probably go with that. I'm not racing so aero doesn't matter much to me. I like a helmet to be so comfortable that I forget I'm wearing it. Weight, size, and retention systems are my priorities.
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Looks like the specs are located under the colour selection.
Its in Chinese. Looks like thr TS-42 is 238g for medium, 248g for large. The other one is a bit lighter i think
That's pretty good! Puts it in the same range of more expensive helmets
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So I guess if you suddenly stop posting on here we will know if your helmet experiment has failed :P
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So I guess if you suddenly stop posting on here we will know if your helmet experiment has failed :P
That's dark. Funny, but dark
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Frankly I'm skeptical. But I'm also willing to be persuaded that they're truly equivalent to the name-brand helmets sold in the US and elsewhere.
I wonder if some of us could buy Chinese bike helmets and have them tested at the Virginia Tech lab: https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html (https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html)
As you can see from the ratings there, the correlation between price and protection is weak at best.
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Frankly I'm skeptical. But I'm also willing to be persuaded that they're truly equivalent to the name-brand helmets sold in the US and elsewhere.
I wonder if some of us could buy Chinese bike helmets and have them tested at the Virginia Tech lab: https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html (https://www.helmet.beam.vt.edu/bicycle-helmet-ratings.html)
As you can see from the ratings there, the correlation between price and protection is weak at best.
Cool link! Although, there is definitely a positive correlation between MIPS and a better score.
For me, employing the happiness = expectations - reality, I’d say I’m not too skeptical.
Here are my expectations:
1) meets at least minimum CE safety standards
2) has conventional fasteners and retention system. Up close pics look like a generic retention system)
3) not, not aero. Probably no worse than generic helmets. Possible aero advantage? Probably not as good as a Specialized Evade II (which funnily had a pretty terrible safety score)
So long as reality meets or exceeds the above, I’ll be happy.
I’m looking to get a sample price from SUNRIMOON, as I wouldn’t buy this at retail. Lol
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Any update on this?
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Cool link! Although, there is definitely a positive correlation between MIPS and a better score.
For me, employing the happiness = expectations - reality, I’d say I’m not too skeptical.
Here are my expectations:
1) meets at least minimum CE safety standards
2) has conventional fasteners and retention system. Up close pics look like a generic retention system)
3) not, not aero. Probably no worse than generic helmets. Possible aero advantage? Probably not as good as a Specialized Evade II (which funnily had a pretty terrible safety score)
So long as reality meets or exceeds the above, I’ll be happy.
I’m looking to get a sample price from SUNRIMOON, as I wouldn’t buy this at retail. Lol
Are you planning on getting a sample price based on potentially placing a larger size order?
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Are you planning on getting a sample price based on potentially placing a larger size order?
I just said “F*** it” and put in a quote for 20. Mixed colours and sizes.
I am confident enough that they are an OEM manufacturer looking to create their own brand.
They admitted as such, and the helmet looks suspiciously similar to the HJC Furion 2.0.
Of course, most of these factories are an OEM for someone, so that’s no surprise.
No concerns on them meeting safety thresholds. Although, with 20 I may consider sending in one for independent testing. I’ll have to weigh the costs.
Worse comes to worse, I sell them at cost.
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i purchased some of these helmets a while back, still going strong and no issues with them.
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I bought some AliEx helmets awhile back and they work fine. The problem I had with legit brand helmets was sizing. I bought several name brand/expensive helmets and returned them all. My head is between a medium and large, forcing me to go large most the time and all the helmets looked like mushrooms on my head. Some of the AliEx helmets come spec'ed between M/L and visually didn't look big on my head so I bought two helmets online that look great. The injected foam looks solid and my theory is that I only need the helmet to work once! Plus Costco (big US membership store) sells cheap $25 USD MIPs helmets, so it makes me wonder how much of a premium the name brands are charging?
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I bought some AliEx helmets awhile back and they work fine. The problem I had with legit brand helmets was sizing. I bought several name brand/expensive helmets and returned them all. My head is between a medium and large, forcing me to go large most the time and all the helmets looked like mushrooms on my head. Some of the AliEx helmets come spec'ed between M/L and visually didn't look big on my head so I bought a two online that look great. The injected foam looks solid and my theory is that I only need the helmet to work once! Plus Costco sells cheap $25 USD MIPs helmets, so it makes me wonder how much of a premium the name brands are charging?
I'm the same way. My big ass head is surprisingly just a bit too small for my POC helmet. The helmet feels good on my head, but I wouldn't look so much like a dork if the size L helmets were just a bit smaller. Also the damn POC straps are just never long enough and almost too short for my ears when fully extended.
I bought an AliX Abus copy which fit well, admittedly a bit better than the POC but obviously not as high quality and a bit less comfortable. My gf needed a helmet so I gave it to her. It's certainly worth the $25 or so it cost.
Thanks for the Costco tip. I'll definitely look those up.
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For my store, the helmets are a bit of a bust. Outside of those who regularly shop on AliX, such as us here, not much interest in helmets from China (which should have come as no surprise)
As for SUNRIMOON itself, the interactions could have been better. I feel like a combination of them still figuring stuff out, and them offloading on to me - packaging came in different iterations from different generations. The helmets themselves had different iterations for the same model. For instance their TS-42 helmets arrived with different pads, retention, and fastening buckle depending based on updates they made to the helmet.
They also sent a handful of incorrect helmets, but did throw in a kids helmet for free for my daughter.
And for a small guy like me, ease of working with a supplier is just as important as the product itself.
The helmets themselves are fine. I really like the current iteration of the TS-42, with anti-microbial pads, fidlock magnetic buckle, and greater retention system adjustability.
So, I'll be keeping some for personal use, and offloading the rest at cost to recoup some capital and deploying elsewhere.
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I'm the same way. My big ass head is surprisingly just a bit too small for my POC helmet. The helmet feels good on my head, but I wouldn't look so much like a dork if the size L helmets were just a bit smaller. Also the damn POC straps are just never long enough and almost too short for my ears when fully extended.
I bought an AliX Abus copy which fit well, admittedly a bit better than the POC but obviously not as high quality and a bit less comfortable. My gf needed a helmet so I gave it to her. It's certainly worth the $25 or so it cost.
Thanks for the Costco tip. I'll definitely look those up.
Actually I think they were priced higher now that I looked up the Costco helmet, but still well-priced. I did try one in-store and it fit well...though not great looking:
https://www.costco.com/freetown-gear-%2526-gravel-lumiere-adult-bike-helmet-with-mips.product.100856858.html (https://www.costco.com/freetown-gear-%2526-gravel-lumiere-adult-bike-helmet-with-mips.product.100856858.html)
Also I bought two knock-off helmets, a Trek Bontrager and a POC. I ended up just taking off the stickers on the Trek helmet since they were heat applied to the surface. The knock-off POC helmet I left as-is because the graphics were under the clear coat. Though I bought a gold color that isn't in the POC line-up. I compared it to my buddy's official POC helmet and you can barely tell the difference beside the internal padding. Also every helmet video I've seen comparing these knockoffs have been done by the bike companies themselves. If the bike industry had their way as well, they'd probably make videos saying how Chinese carbon is also unsafe! Lol
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A bump in this topic. Are there any new experiences separate especially for the newest helmets that are claimed to be tested in the Silverstone wind tunnel?
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A bump in this topic. Are there any new experiences separate especially for the newest helmets that are claimed to be tested in the Silverstone wind tunnel?
I have new Starstream. It's my second from sunrimoon. Very well made, better than my POC and Vanrysel.
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Thank you. I ordered the new S10 helmet in the carbon version. Will report here.
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I ordered new S10 too but regular version.
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Yeah found a 15 % voucher on Instagram, so it was really cheap :D
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How is the sizing on sunrimoon?
With Kask helmets I'm very good on M 52-58 , their L 59-62 are too big.
My head measurement is around 57,5.
Sunrimoon sizes are M 54-57 L 57-61 so i would go with L but i don't want to look like a mushroom, what owners thinks?
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Also ordered the TT-28 Starstream to color match my bike (Cosmic Violet).
- Colorscheme: it's ok, not as bright as in the site photo, the 'Sunrimoon' logo has holo colors which is nice.
- So far good, very comformtable,
- 'looks' aero because less ventilation stuff; also looks a little bit like Alien from the movies :D.
- Package was great,
- Paid $100 which cam in 89 EUR with Paypal, no shipping cost.
- magnetic straps are nice upgrade to my older 2 helmets
- Sun glasses fit for carrying them (which was not the case with my old helmets..).
- Delivery took 12 days from Nancheng to Germany.
- Even though i accidentally ordered an "M" it still fits my rather large head (usually 60 or something)
In total would recommend, maybe i would go with another colorscheme (Flashing Violet)
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Also ordered the TT-28 Starstream to color match my bike (Cosmic Violet).
- Colorscheme: it's ok, not as bright as in the site photo, the 'Sunrimoon' logo has holo colors which is nice.
- So far good, very comformtable,
- 'looks' aero because less ventilation stuff; also looks a little bit like Alien from the movies :D.
- Package was great,
- Paid $100 which cam in 89 EUR with Paypal, no shipping cost.
- magnetic straps are nice upgrade to my older 2 helmets
- Sun glasses fit for carrying them (which was not the case with my old helmets..).
- Delivery took 12 days from Nancheng to Germany.
- Even though i accidentally ordered an "M" it still fits my rather large head (usually 60 or something)
In total would recommend, maybe i would go with another colorscheme (Flashing Violet)
And this is the MAIN reason why Chinese manyfacturers have years to go still to catch up to Western brands. The quality control is absolute shit still.
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And this is the MAIN reason why Chinese manyfacturers have years to go still to catch up to Western brands. The quality control is absolute shit still.
Wow, how did you connected that with the QC? 😅
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Wow, how did you connected that with the QC? 😅
Because an M sized helmet should NOT fit anyone usually wearing 60 size helmets which would be L/XL for sure.
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It all depends of the head shape.
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It all depends of the head shape.
This. There is a large table on the website with size differentiation in combination with the head shape.
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And this is the MAIN reason why Chinese manyfacturers have years to go still to catch up to Western brands. The quality control is absolute shit still.
this isn't about quality control at all. they just have a very different size chart and you need to double check because fatty western sizes do not translate very well
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this isn't about quality control at all. they just have a very different size chart and you need to double check because fatty western sizes do not translate very well
What??!?!?!?! You are saying that my fat western head at 58cm is somehow bigger than your eastern fat head at 58cm? how so? :)
But really, how many times did you buy the same jersey or a bib or a helmet etc. from the same manufacturer but different colour, and the fit is completely off? Happens all the time.
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I just received the CS-57 'Alien' helmet from Sunrimoon. It's really good quality. The outer shell seems durable, the gel pads inside are comfortable (even comes with replacement foam pads) and the magnetic buckle is really convenient, you can take it on and off with one hand. The adjustment dial is smooth and can be moved down for a better fit. I opted for size M having a 58cm head and it fits me, but I'd go for size L if I had a bigger head. Also, really light at 240g.
The main drawback for me is the branding, which I find a bit loud. Probably wouldn't complain if it was a name brand to be honest. Also, the paint finish around the edges of the shell could be a little cleaner, and my glasses don't fit particularly well in the slots.
Overall, a great helmet! Well worth the $80.
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Thank you. I ordered the new S10 helmet in the carbon version. Will report here.
Hey did you get your order? I'm still waiting for mine.
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Hey did you get your order? I'm still waiting for mine.
Me too. I wrote an mail two days ago asking for the shipping but no reply yet. Did you get one?
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They just send it out after my email. So it's on the way.
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They just send it out after my email. So it's on the way.
Which address did you use?
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Which address did you use?
I've answered for the email with order number. market@sunrimoon.com
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I've answered for the email with order number. market@sunrimoon.com
Okay, I used the same but no answer. I tried the Gmail one from the shop page today.
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So I tried three different mail-addresses from their web page, no answer yet.
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I ordered and returned a Phantom 3D-Grid model, specifically the red one. The ratchet at the back can be moved up and down, which is nice, but was stuck too far in when I received it and I had pry it out with a knife following the instructions from the seller on Taobao. Ended up getting it out and it was extremely loose. Put it down on the table with the shell up and the ratchet slid all the way back into the stuck position. Luckily, I still had time to return it.
Assuming that's just a one-off QC issue, the helmet looked super cool and the 3D printed liner is pretty interesting. It's kinda weird, though, in that your scalp only actually touches the middle liner, not the ones on the side, but upon pressing down the helmet (like an impact would), it squishes nicely and then the second set of liners can engage.
I also ordered the Alien model in size L, but it didn't fit me at all. Assuming I measured correctly, my head is about 58 cm, so it should fit, but it was too big. Maybe a rounder head than mine could've fit better, though. For reference, I have an Ekoi Aero16 in size M that fits fine and a WWW AR0 in M that also fits nicely.