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Chinese Carbon Road Bikes => Road Bike Frames, Wheels & Components => Topic started by: Bonpensiero on April 20, 2023, 01:51:03 PM
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There will be a new model from Carbonda, the FM1136.
The geometry of the FM1136 is similar to the FM1056. However, some points are new:
- it is lighter. T800 and T1000 fibres are used
- the design is more aerodynamic
- the chainstay is thicker
- the fork no longer needs a fork crown.
- BSA 68 thread. No more pressfit
- still space for 32 mm tyres
My frame comes from the sample department of Flybike (Carbonda). The workmanship of the frame was awesome.
Weights of my frame (Size S) 1011g, fork (uncut) 502g.
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A few pictures and some pdfs from Carbonda.
Frame is size S.
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Some pictures of my setup.
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Any idea on the status and availability of this frame?
What handelbar is shown in the build photos?
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The frame is available. Just email Wing or someone else from Carbonda.
The size of the handlebar is 110*420.
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Hi everyone,
I am starting to build a Carbonda 1136 frame and I am facing a potential problem. I ordered the non integrated version of the frame so that I can use a regular handlebar, easily adjust the front setup, stem length etc. in the future.
So I have two holes on the sides of the downtube for the derailleurs housings, and also an entrance and exit on the fork leg for the front brake hose. That is it, so I am wondering where the rear brake hose is supposed to come out.
I was expecting another hole for the rear brake with this external version of the frame, somewhere at the top of the downtube. So I am wondering: is it a mistake from Carbonda ? Or is it normal with this frame and the rear hose is always supposed to pass through the headtube ? In the latter case, you would necessarily have to use a semi-integrated type of headset (FSA NO.69 SRS or Acros is52 ICR if I am not mistaken, or the FSA NO.55R for the fully integrated setup).
Thank you for your insights!
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...I was expecting another hole...
Isn't there an entry on the downtube ?
Like you can see on the black frame on this post: http://chinertown.com/index.php?topic=4178.0
(http://chinertown.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4178.0;attach=15378;image)
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Isn't there an entry on the downtube ?
No, there isn't any dedicated entry/exit for the rear brake hose on the downtube. I have two holes on the sides of the downtube : one for each shift cable housing (pictures attached). The rear brake hose enters at the chainstay and stops in the headtube.
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At least for their mountain bike frames there are different inserts for those ports that accept two cables, not sure if that is the intended solution here or not.
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Unfortunately I push everyone to go electronic ::) and never had the issue as a result.
You should contact Carbonda
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Anyone have a comparison between this and the "outgoing" CFR 1056?
I do like the improved aerodynamics but the "old" CFR1056 seems to have a more aggressive geometry with a seat angle of 73.5° & Head Angle of 73° compared to this new geometry. Comparing the "Large" frame size.
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There will be a new model from Carbonda, the FM1136.
The geometry of the FM1136 is similar to the FM1056. However, some points are new:
- it is lighter. T800 and T1000 fibres are used
- the design is more aerodynamic
- the chainstay is thicker
- the fork no longer needs a fork crown.
- BSA 68 thread. No more pressfit
- still space for 32 mm tyres
My frame comes from the sample department of Flybike (Carbonda). The workmanship of the frame was awesome.
Weights of my frame (Size S) 1011g, fork (uncut) 502g.
Hey!
I want to pull the trigger on this 1136 but i'm a tad skeptical on the aero properties of the frame and the matte black pictures on carbondas website hide so much detail.
Does the fram actually have an aero build like alot of the modern road race bikes out now? Hard to tell but does the head tube have an hour glass shape and are the fork blades aero? Is the seat post completly round ior does it have an elongated oval shape for aero?
I really want my next bike to actually be an aero upgrade so just trying to enusre this has some of the properties of newer aero frames before commintting. Thanks for the help!!
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Hey!
I want to pull the trigger on this 1136 but i'm a tad skeptical on the aero properties of the frame and the matte black pictures on carbondas website hide so much detail.
Does the fram actually have an aero build like alot of the modern road race bikes out now? Hard to tell but does the head tube have an hour glass shape and are the fork blades aero? Is the seat post completly round ior does it have an elongated oval shape for aero?
I really want my next bike to actually be an aero upgrade so just trying to enusre this has some of the properties of newer aero frames before commintting. Thanks for the help!!
I wouldnt say its super aero, but it certainly has some aero aspects. Made some pics of a frame I have access to.
Head tube has hourglass, shape, the fork blades are also aero. seat post is round. Hope this helps.
Another question, what size would you guys recommend for a rider with 186cm size and 91cm inseam? Focus on relaxed riding, ultracycling races.
I'm torn between L and XL...
(what a shitty software this forum has :D )
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I wouldnt say its super aero, but it certainly has some aero aspects. Made some pics of a frame I have access to.
Head tube has hourglass, shape, the fork blades are also aero. seat post is round. Hope this helps.
Another question, what size would you guys recommend for a rider with 186cm size and 91cm inseam? Focus on relaxed riding, ultracycling races.
I'm torn between L and XL...
(what a shitty software this forum has :D )
I'm also in between sizes, trying to decide between M and L. Since I already have a 696 and purposely want something lighter and more nimble i think I'll go M just because the wheelbase will be a bit tigher and it'll be a touch lighter.
In all honesty though i'm stuck between this frame and the Airwolf yfr066. I like the more aero styling of the airwolf but i know and love carbonda so its tough to decide,
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I also considered to Airwulf, but after easing about some quality problems and headset issues, I went for the 1136 yesterday.
Carbonda always had very good quality, never had any issues with them. it's gonna be my 4rth Carbonda frame.
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messaged Wing. Unfortunatly this frame comes with the 1056 bar now https://www.carbonda.com/handlebar/chb-1056.html and not the 1036 https://www.carbonda.com/handlebar/chb-1036.html it used to come with? A little annoyed by this because the outgoing bar had a reach of 69 and the 1056 has a reach of 75 and larger drop... the shorter reach of this frame really enticed me but with that bar its now really no shorter then other frames of the same size.
It looks like Bonpensieros frame came with the 1036?
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Just ask if it's possible?
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Indeed, just ask them. I'd be surprised if they wouldn't want to swap bars on request.
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Indeed, just ask them. I'd be surprised if they wouldn't want to swap bars on request.
I asked when I originally reached out. Unfortunately they are discontinuing the 1036 and thus only have a few remaining set of sizes that I would not order, they are completely out of the smaller sizes and wont be restocking them
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It looks like Bonpensieros frame came with the 1036?
Yeah, right. It's the 1036.
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Yeah, right. It's the 1036.
I guess i could alternately find another integrated bar with a shorter reach... any rec?
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This is an odd question. Carbonda and Flybike each have a model called 1136 but their geometry tables differ slightly. why do you guys think that is? They should be the same frame, shouldnt they?
CFR-1136: https://www.carbonda.com/road/cfr-1136-sl.html
FM1136: https://www.flybike-asia.com/product/148.html
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It's the same frame. Carbonda resells the Flybike stuff.
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It's the same frame. Carbonda resells the Flybike stuff.
I understand that, but isnt it weird then, that the headtube measurements (HS) are off by up to 4 mm?
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I think the information from flybike is less accurate. My head tube is exactly 140 mm long (size s). But just ask Wing or someone else from Carbonda.
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For those who bought and ride the 1136 what are your ride impressions? I'm stuck between choosing the 1056 and 1136. Anybody ridden both? I've got the 696 and am happy with that. Thanks!
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The same question for the owners of this frame, it is worth yo buy it for the long term?
Gracias...
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My gf is very happy with hers, bought like 1.5yrs ago and ridden around 15.000 by now. She is doing ultra races and every day riding.
She prefers the frame over the Canyon Endurace she had before.
I ordered a frameset for myself, its in the making right now.
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Thanks
How much did it cost?
Whichi email did you use to contact them?
Thanks…
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Frameset wih Frame, Fork, Seatpost - $690
F&R axle - §26
headset - $15
Handlebar - $155
Paint - at least $70
shipping cost - $XX
sales1 (at) carbonda.com
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My 1136 got delivered a week ago and I just had it built up!
Size medium, I had the frame painted through Carbonda. The paint job came out incredible. The "black" is UD Glossy Carbon, the exposed carbon layup looks awesome and really shimmers in the sun. The white is "pearl white" and has a nice glitter effect to it.
Here is a link to my unboxing https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFBww_SPnmf/?igsh=MWRmeHAybXRqb3hr (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFBww_SPnmf/?igsh=MWRmeHAybXRqb3hr)
I've linked some pictures below, heres the best pic i have so far https://imgur.com/ebcWA6d.
Weight came in at 7.7 kg w/o pedals.
Really happy with it so far. I used the carbonda supplied bar/stem and Carbonda headset. My only issue atm seems to be the gap between the steerer and the bottom of the headtube? Did others experience this large of a gap, did my mechanic do something wrong? SEE "Steerer Gap" attachment for photo
https://imgur.com/InmObzL (https://imgur.com/InmObzL)
https://imgur.com/0AvyA6Q (https://imgur.com/0AvyA6Q)
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My 1136 got delivered a week ago and I just had it built up!
Size medium, I had the frame painted through Carbonda. The paint job came out incredible. The "black" is UD Glossy Carbon, the exposed carbon layup looks awesome and really shimmers in the sun. The white is "pearl white" and has a nice glitter effect to it.
Here is a link to my unboxing https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFBww_SPnmf/?igsh=MWRmeHAybXRqb3hr (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFBww_SPnmf/?igsh=MWRmeHAybXRqb3hr)
I've linked some pictures below, heres the best pic i have so far https://imgur.com/ebcWA6d.
Weight came in at 7.7 kg w/o pedals.
Really happy with it so far. I used the carbonda supplied bar/stem and Carbonda headset. My only issue atm seems to be the gap between the steerer and the bottom of the headtube? Did others experience this large of a gap, did my mechanic do something wrong? SEE "Steerer Gap" attachment for photo
https://imgur.com/InmObzL (https://imgur.com/InmObzL)
https://imgur.com/0AvyA6Q (https://imgur.com/0AvyA6Q)
Thanks for the report.
What is the bottom bracket with?
Thanks in advance.
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I used this BB https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/sram-dub-bottom-bracket