Dear all members:
Really thanks for the supporting of Tideacebikes.
Tideacebikes New mold Road Frame FM-CR068 now being production.
Now accept the groupbuy order.
Headset: Top-Bottom 52
Max Tire: 700*30C
Front thru axle: 100*12mm
Rear thru axle: 142*12mm
Rear Hanger: UDH
Weight: 1000g +/-50g (Size S)
BB: T47
Braking: Flatmount 140mm Disc brake
EPS Technology
Any question or interesting, feel free to contact us at any time.
[email protected]Thanks
Eddy
Would be interesting to see a geometry chart and real life photos of frame when available.
That rear end looks like it would just be a headache, the rest is very nice
It looks like those concept bicycles from big car companies.
Those seatstays better be pretty heavy and tough, or catastrophic failure of TT / seatstay junction in 3,2,1. They're much less deep than on the similar Madone - although this design obviously does without the stupid 90 degree TT / ST junction and gloryhole.
Presumably the top tube looping round the seatpost is *not* interference fit and has a rubber insert, allowing the seatpost to flex. If it's interference fit, how will the seatpost flex without cracking the TT loop? If it's not designed to flex, then what is the point of this design?
This is definitely an interesting design. I will say that more than seatpost flex, i would love the option to have a road bike geometry that could fit 35mm tires in a pinch like the Enve Melee, even if its optimized for a 30mm tire. This design clearly would have space at the seat stays, but the fork and the chainstay would be the limitation. If this bike does have that kind of clearance. Consider me interested!
I do question the seat tube cluster design as it seems like it would limit the range of height adjustment that can be done, but another big question for me is how much dirt and water would foul up the seatpost clamp area since its placed so low and close to the tire.
Hi:
Wishing you a nice day.
Thanks for your supporting.
Attached the real picture for your reference of our newset road mold FM-CR068.
Headset: Top-Bottom 52
Max Tire: 700*32C
Front thru axle: 100*12mm
Rear thru axle: 142*12mm
Rear Hanger: UDH
Weight: 1000g +/-50g (Size S)
BB: T47
Braking: Flatmount 140mm Disc brake
EPS Technology
Love the overall looks of the bike.
But like many other have said in this thread. The seatpost area looks like a big truoble in the future.
If that area would have looked and been designed differently it would have been really interesting but for now i will pass on this.
That seatpost area is innovation nobody needs, quite the opposite. Also, maxing out at 30C in 2024 is really not future proof.
I wish you'd make a light Trek Emonda with 32-34C clearance, or a Look 765. These look nice, have wide clearance, are light, and have geometries where a lot of people could slam that stem AND be comfortable.
Quote from: Serge_K on April 23, 2024, 06:14:41 AM
That seatpost area is innovation nobody needs, quite the opposite. Also, maxing out at 30C in 2024 is really not future proof.
I wish you'd make a light Trek Emonda with 32-34C clearance, or a Look 765. These look nice, have wide clearance, are light, and have geometries where a lot of people could slam that stem AND be comfortable.
Yeah, the 30C is really a no-go these days...
I like the frame, I'd totally ride that. I'm sure the seat stay design is fine for anyone under 70kg! Though I would have preferred 32c tires max. :D
Quote from: jonathanf2 on April 23, 2024, 11:45:56 AM
I like the frame, I'd totally ride that. I'm sure the seat stay design is fine for anyone under 70kg! Though I would have preferred 32c tires max. :D
I feel fat shamed right now :p
Quote from: Serge_K on April 23, 2024, 12:22:58 PM
I feel fat shamed right now :p
Seriously though, I feel like there's a certain weight/size tolerance for a lot of overseas components. I tend to include that in my risk assessment when buying stuff from China. That seat stay design might be fine for someone my size, but for someone who weighs more or has different dynamic leverages, it might be problematic.
Sorry for my mistake, it is for 700*32C for the new mold FM-CR068.
Thanks
Quote from: jonathanf2 on April 23, 2024, 12:46:21 PM
Seriously though, I feel like there's a certain weight/size tolerance for a lot of overseas components. I tend to include that in my risk assessment when buying stuff from China. That seat stay design might be fine for someone my size, but for someone who weighs more or has different dynamic leverages, it might be problematic.
Makes complete sense. From an engineering & manufacturing standpoint, i still think it doesnt make sense for them to produce such an exotic feature, but from a risk perspective, you could feel ok with the risk, while i never could. if i did and had an issue, my engineering friends would just laugh at me, and i really couldn't blame them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_3bWZNtz-Y&t=22s
Quote from: Eddy-haideli on April 23, 2024, 09:07:03 PM
Sorry for my mistake, it is for 700*32C for the new mold FM-CR068.
Thanks
So are you really just going to ignore the discussion about the cut off seat tube / looped top tube etc? No comment on how it's been designed and why?
Quote from: RDY on April 25, 2024, 06:30:45 AM
So are you really just going to ignore the discussion about the cut off seat tube / looped top tube etc? No comment on how it's been designed and why?
I agree, or test resistance or whatever proof of usability please.
Found geometry info on their site: https://tideacebike.com/products/fm-cr068-aerodynamic-road-racing-bike-frame
But 1.100$... i better buy Bross bike for this price
Full bicycle attached.
https://tideacebike.com/collections/road-bike-frame/products/fm-cr068-aerodynamic-road-racing-bike-frame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZwxFIRxC8M
Quote from: Eddy-haideli on June 15, 2024, 03:02:14 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZwxFIRxC8M
What is the weight limit ?
Crazy! I kinda like it!
Yeah, the frame is quite tempting, but I don't see any stresstests on the seat post of some sort. Others pointed out as well that this could be an issue. hope it will work for the "big" powerfull boys as well.
The only information is :
"Reinforce the connection between the rear seat stay and the top tube for higher strength."
And this picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm7kmKEzXIE
sure is an eye-catcher, I have it on my wish list but would like see some reviews first
Could it be inspired by the Lapierre Aircode DRS:
(https://d1mgeijqpfaspl.cloudfront.net/uploads/bike/media/648506/66187f045710d_hslkrqko72.webp?width=770)
(https://d1mgeijqpfaspl.cloudfront.net/uploads/bike/media/648506/66187f03c941e_tow02sic43.webp)
Also curious about any review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90wyKQJJ5PA
More feedback picture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLe0dM9ACUQ
Tesing video attached.
Anyone interested in Tideace bikes should have a read of this thread where the rear triangle of an MTB frame had a design flaw. A new triangle was produced to fix these issues yet it wasn't covered under warranty
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3593.0.html
Quote from: PineappleExpress234 on July 08, 2024, 08:09:24 AM
Anyone interested in Tideace bikes should have a read of this thread where the rear triangle of an MTB frame had a design flaw. A new triangle was produced to fix these issues yet it wasn't covered under warranty
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3593.0.html
Yeah, looks like they just ignore posts about problems... Better to look elsewhere...
Upland brand (which I did not know) seems to sell this bike :
https://biketo.com/mobile/#/detail/73/52876
Quote from: PineappleExpress234 on July 08, 2024, 08:09:24 AM
Anyone interested in Tideace bikes should have a read of this thread where the rear triangle of an MTB frame had a design flaw. A new triangle was produced to fix these issues yet it wasn't covered under warranty
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3593.0.html
Yeah. I almost bought one in that group buy. Dodged a bullet.
Quote from: Eddy-haideli on June 27, 2024, 02:52:34 AM
More feedback picture.
How deep should we make the head tube?
Yes.
Quote from: Serge_K on July 11, 2024, 01:38:19 PM
How deep should we make the head tube?
Yes.
How deep for the head tube?
Sorry that can you explain the question?
Only 6.9kg
https://tideacebike.com/collections/disc-brake-frame/products/fm-cr068-aerodynamic-road-racing-bike-frame
A lot customized color being done and shipped out.
Any interesting feel free to contact us.
www.tideacebike.com
Thanks
Eddy
You say there have been a lot of bikes shipping out for this frame, do you have any reviews of the bike outside of your company? I have not been able to find a single persons hands on review of this frame. While it looks very interesting, and i'm personally interested in the frameset, I can't see there wont being THAT many purchases without some kind of review.
I would give you a personal Review but I am still waiting for the frameset. Estimated Production was End of September.
Quote from: Uberflo on October 28, 2024, 03:29:35 PM
I would give you a personal Review but I am still waiting for the frameset. Estimated Production was End of September.
What is your size and the size of the frame you took ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8V9tZYJe6o
Quote from: BeR on October 28, 2024, 11:34:24 PM
What is your size and the size of the frame you took ?
1,91 and size L
Ice crack black
More full bicycle picture attached.
Are there some reviews of this frame ? Does anybody order it ? I am still looking at this frame even if I am a little worry by the seatpost.
I have ordered. Expect to get it delivered to UK late January to build up for Spring. Ordered via Ali Express as their discounts were too good. Aiming to get built up mechanical 1x to get to around 6.3kg. Size XS. Will report back and share pictures in due course. Eddy picked up Ali order as colour scheme is bespoke.
I like tube profiles and wasn't worried about seat pin. I'm no engineer but this doesn't look more dangerous than Madone and the way the seat pin anchors to seat tube and top tube creates a similar triangle to Lapierre which has been a pro team bike for years.
Quote from: Timuk on November 24, 2024, 11:42:38 AM
I have ordered. Expect to get it delivered to UK late January to build up for Spring. Ordered via Ali Express as their discounts were too good. Aiming to get built up mechanical 1x to get to around 6.3kg. Size XS. Will report back and share pictures in due course. Eddy picked up Ali order as colour scheme is bespoke.
I like tube profiles and wasn't worried about seat pin. I'm no engineer but this doesn't look more dangerous than Madone and the way the seat pin anchors to seat tube and top tube creates a similar triangle to Lapierre which has been a pro team bike for years.
What was your price ?
723 GBP with more than 100GBP of Ali vouchers plus Choice Day sale.
Quote from: Timuk on November 24, 2024, 11:52:47 AM
723 GBP with more than 100GBP of Ali vouchers plus Choice Day sale.
Wow, nice price.
My Frame is finally ready for the paintjob (order was end of September). I hope it will arrive until end of December.
My frameset will be shipped today (the one in the middle). I will report when it arrives.
More pictures.
Quote from: Uberflo on December 10, 2024, 06:23:47 AM
My frameset will be shipped today (the one in the middle). I will report when it arrives.
Have you received your frame and ride it ?
Quote from: BeR on January 05, 2025, 12:09:39 PM
Have you received your frame and ride it ?
I timed the delivery for last Friday as I was on holidays but DPD did not manage it. So I hope for tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT8uNFqoJj8
So DPD managed the delivery today. I must admit the paint job is very good again as it is my second tideace frame. There is just one small bubble on the downtube logo. Both brake mounts are flat and fine.
Here are some pictures: https://imgur.com/a/gX1VRTM
The frame is a size L. I hope for a build around 7,5 to 7,7 kg.
I will use a Speeder Cycling handlebar with FSA ACR and now awaiting the top cover puzzle set from AliExpress. Groupset will be SRAM RED E1, BBinfinite bottom bracket, Fizik Antares Adaptive Saddle, Look Keo Carbon TI pedals and Nextie ARX60 wheelset with Conti GP5000.
Anyone also weight the frame in the size L. Looking for some swap of Elves Falath Evo which is very heavy in size 59 - 1360 g. I saw that L size is also quite heavy. What regarding the fork and seatpost?
Bike is ready, sits on 7,8 kg including pedals and bottle cages. The build was straight forward except for the handlebar. I am little bit disappointed from the speeder cycling as it was very tight on the fork (had to sand it) and sharp edges inside with kind of carbon filament.
A quick photo https://imgur.com/a/aIFT6qs
Quote from: Uberflo on January 19, 2025, 05:36:11 AM
Bike is ready, sits on 7,8 kg including pedals and bottle cages. The build was straight forward except for the handlebar. I am little bit disappointed from the speeder cycling as it was very tight on the fork (had to sand it) and sharp edges inside with kind of carbon filament.
A quick photo https://imgur.com/a/aIFT6qs
How is the ride ?
Will report when the weather conditions allow
Here are better pictures
https://imgur.com/a/r6vQg0T
That looks great. What rotor sizes are you running? Are you using Red E1 calipers?
160 mm SwissStop Catalyst Race with the E1 calipers
Quote from: Uberflo on January 23, 2025, 12:34:06 PM
Here are better pictures
https://imgur.com/a/r6vQg0T
Looks really good imo
Last issue was the large gap under the top cap. So I bought a universal o ring seal and cut a fitting part. I will have to sand it down a little bit as the seal is 2 mm thick as large as the gap.
https://imgur.com/a/vw9Zg6K
More picture attached.
You can find a 3D printed seatpost mount for Garmin Varia now here: https://3dpapsi.de/products/tideace-fm-cr068
First ride today. The frame feels nice and stiff. My only issue is the slipping seatpost. I will try another carbon paste.
Any new experiences / reviews on this frame? It looks so nice but it's always a wild shot buying frames without any reviews... :'(
I had just one ride until now. The seatpost needs more torque and I will use another carbon paste. I will also change the handlebar and have to replace both brake hoses as there have zero pressure after the first ride.
Quote from: Uberflo on March 11, 2025, 07:17:18 AM
I had just one ride until now. The seatpost needs more torque and I will use another carbon paste. I will also change the handlebar and have to replace both brake hoses as there have zero pressure after the first ride.
How was the stifness of the frame ?
Frankly it looks good to me and I see the seatstays as more of a style pick.
With Tour magazine style testing with a lower body only dummy they might have a negative aero impact, but IRL with you pedaling constantly and the dirty airflow around your legs the impact should be minimal. It's a bit similar with aero seatposts, IRL less important than people think (they still have an impact) and the added comfort of a round seatpost is something that most people should value higher.
Quote from: BeR on March 11, 2025, 08:42:04 AM
How was the stifness of the frame ?
I will have to do a few more rides to give a final feedback.
Quote from: Dareios on March 11, 2025, 12:55:04 PM
Frankly it looks good to me and I see the seatstays as more of a style pick.
With Tour magazine style testing with a lower body only dummy they might have a negative aero impact, but IRL with you pedaling constantly and the dirty airflow around your legs the impact should be minimal. It's a bit similar with aero seatposts, IRL less important than people think (they still have an impact) and the added comfort of a round seatpost is something that most people should value higher.
Interesting. So Trek Madone should be less aero then competitors, too?
Is there an aero test proofing that?
The Tideace frame looks pretty thick from front view, this should be an disadvantage?
My biggest concern is that there aren't any reviews on this frame concerning safety/durabillity even after being some months on the market...don't want to be the first finding his teeth on tarmac...
Yes, new Madone was the slowest in the last TOUR magazine test. I will give further feedback on the bike after a few rides.
So the first full ride. The seatpost is no longer slipping with Dynamic Carbon Paste. The bike is fast as hell. I have no issues with any creaking noises and I am a big boi with 99 kg on 191 cm. Final setup now with wheels from Peter and Bigrock Skyline handlebar on 7,85 kg.
https://imgur.com/a/JUaavy6
Just two last issues:
- rubber cover for the lower clamp does not follow the frame
- screw for the saddle clamp was rusty after the first wet ride, will change it against a Ti one
Quote from: Uberflo on March 16, 2025, 09:23:34 AM
So the first full ride. The seatpost is no longer slipping with Dynamic Carbon Paste. The bike is fast as hell. I have no issues with any creaking noises and I am a big boi with 99 kg on 191 cm. Final setup now with wheels from Peter and Bigrock Skyline handlebar on 7,85 kg.
https://imgur.com/a/JUaavy6
Just two last issues:
- rubber cover for the lower clamp does not follow the frame
- screw for the saddle clamp was rusty after the first wet ride, will change it against a Ti one
Nice, thanks. What is about climbing ?
What is the weight and size of the frame ?
Climbing feels good but I am coming from a > 9 kg Ti frame. Frame size is large and weight 1.300 g
Quote from: Uberflo on March 16, 2025, 10:38:07 AM
Climbing feels good but I am coming from a > 9 kg Ti frame. Frame size is large and weight 1.300 g
Without accessories ? DID you weigh the fork and seat post please ?
With Accessoires. I have no weight for fork and seat post.
So, 340 km in total ok the bike and I must admit the rides feel very good. Very stiff, agile for an bulky aero frame and the look is insane. The last two things are the screw (for the saddle clamp) and this rubber cover to follow the frame (open to ideas).
https://imgur.com/a/I2V8DIr
Quote from: Uberflo on March 23, 2025, 03:40:20 PM
So, 340 km in total ok the bike and I must admit the rides feel very good. Very stiff, agile for an bulky aero frame and the look is insane. The last two things are the screw (for the saddle clamp) and this rubber cover to follow the frame (open to ideas).
https://imgur.com/a/I2V8DIr
They released an aero bottle cage for this frame.
Quote from: BeR on March 24, 2025, 07:37:41 AM
They released an aero bottle cage for this frame.
Do you have a picture?
Quote from: Uberflo on March 24, 2025, 07:55:21 AM
Do you have a picture?
Here is the link and a picture :
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EG7GZDe
Thanks, but looks a bit ugly :D
Quote from: Uberflo on March 23, 2025, 03:40:20 PM
So, 340 km in total ok the bike and I must admit the rides feel very good. Very stiff, agile for an bulky aero frame and the look is insane. The last two things are the screw (for the saddle clamp) and this rubber cover to follow the frame (open to ideas).
https://imgur.com/a/I2V8DIr
How is the frame in crosswind ?
You feel but can handle crosswind but in my case it comes more from the high profile wheels than the frame.
So nearly 600 km on the bike. No issues at all. The seatpost stays in place. Bike is very fast, all my rides are > 30 km/h. Just have an issue with the Red rear brake (again), brake pressure not until the lever is at the handlebar.
https://youtube.com/shorts/k1qUO3XaoE0?si=RJHSOcWgO-yEzE7w
Quote from: Uberflo on April 13, 2025, 08:20:47 AM
So nearly 600 km on the bike. No issues at all. The seatpost stays in place. Bike is very fast, all my rides are > 30 km/h. Just have an issue with the Red rear brake (again), brake pressure not until the lever is at the handlebar.
Do you have any updates of this frame please ?
1.700 km on the frame, no issues. No slipping seatpost. Rides good and fast but don't expect any comfort :D
https://youtu.be/9BFt4FxUXME?si=1tKldrrXwUS4hku3
It reminds me something 🤡 :
https://boutique.mf-carbon-cycles.fr/produit.php?id=117&slug=lehna++aero+evo